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Re: Yadea is coming to the Western market

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Post by alistairSH »

euroderf wrote: post #57
alistairSH wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My Vespa Sprint 150 gets ~100mpg around town. It cost ~$5000, much of which is a brand premium. 150cc scooters from other brands (Genuine, etc) are much less.

How realistic timewise is plugging e-bikes into plain old wall power ? Is it any improvement over trying to charge a e-car from wall power (i.e. all-night plus) ?

Depends on the battery size (which depends on bike weight).

For a pedelec (actual e-bike meant to be pedaled), wall charging with a brick/wall-wart works fine. That's how they all work, at least any that I've seen. Some have removable batteries to make that easier, but the high-end models tend to have the battery wedged into the down tube and not removable (with complete disassembly of the bike).

For an e-scooter or light e-moto, wall charging should work fine, but it won't be fast. YOu're looking at 3+ hours to charge. Fine for most commuters and running errands, but not suitable for a delivery vehicle - they'd have to hot-swap batteries (or complete bikes).

Not sure about large electric motorcycles - there aren't that many out there right now. I'd guess similar to e-scooters, just with an even longer 10-80 or 0-100 charge period.

Re: Yadea is coming to the Western market

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Post by baseballdork »

Retric wrote: post #55
baseballdork wrote: post #33

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Sure, but when you can get to 90mph in first gear, does that matter?

Little point to owning a bike like that if you only ever go to 90mph. Transmissions with correctly calibrated gear ratios to the normal use case are useful things for ICE engines.

But how many EV bikes can even hit 90?

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Post by mikestew »

nicoburns wrote: post #42
tigranbs wrote: post #9

EV motorcycles are a huge struggle! I have been riding motorcycles pretty much my whole adult life, but after trying electric bikes a few times while in the EU, I felt they were like toys. Honestly, how can you ride a motorcycle that sounds like a kitchen blender? FYI: I understand they are more efficient and faster, but a motorcycle is not about efficiency; it's more about a hobby, fun. In the EU market, it is mostl…

On the other hand, I would never ever consider a traditional motocycle (partly becuase they are so noisy). But an EV one is very appealing. Exactly because it's more efficient and practical.

On the other hand, I would never ever consider a traditional motocycle (partly because they are so noisy).

They don’t come that way, jackasses modify them. My large displacement BMW is louder than our ICE car, sure, but you probably won’t notice it sitting next to you at a stoplight. And yet it still has enough power to smoke just about any car that doesn’t cost deep in six figures.

Re: Yadea is coming to the Western market

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Post by Retric »

baseballdork wrote: post #72
Retric wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Little point to owning a bike like that if you only ever go to 90mph. Transmissions with correctly calibrated gear ratios to the normal use case are useful things for ICE engines.

But how many EV bikes can even hit 90?

The fast ones can which is the only thing that matters in this comparison. Just as there are plenty of slow ICE bikes, but again they aren’t part of this comparison either, this is about 200+MPH bikes like the Lightning LS-218 vs Ducati Panigale R etc.

Re: Yadea is coming to the Western market

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Post by baseballdork »

Retric wrote: post #74
baseballdork wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But how many EV bikes can even hit 90?

The fast ones can which is the only thing that matters in this comparison. Just as there are plenty of slow ICE bikes, but again they aren’t part of this comparison either, this is about 200+MPH bikes like the Lightning LS-218 vs Ducati Panigale R etc.

Hmm. That’s not “the fast ones”, that’s specifically and purposefully built for the purpose of hitting a high speed. Can’t seem to find 0-218 time to see how it would compare with a geared ICE motorcycle. I’m not convinced it’s getting to the top fast enough for gear shifting to matter.

Re: Yadea is coming to the Western market

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Post by Retric »

baseballdork wrote: post #75
Retric wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The fast ones can which is the only thing that matters in this comparison. Just as there are plenty of slow ICE bikes, but again they aren’t part of this comparison either, this is about 200+MPH bikes like the Lightning LS-218 vs Ducati Panigale R etc.

Hmm. That’s not “the fast ones”, that’s specifically and purposefully built for the purpose of hitting a high speed. Can’t seem to find 0-218 time to see how it would compare with a geared ICE motorcycle. I’m not convinced it’s getting to the top fast enough for gear shifting to matter.

The restrictions on top speed runs to 200+MPH are so extreme they are essentially irrelevant, people do use those bikes to hit 150mph though.

Re: Yadea is coming to the Western market

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Post by M95D »

drnick1 wrote: post #66

Really not keen on the advertised "app-based anti-theft, vehicle movement alert, geo-fencing, GPS tracking." Inevitably, this will be used to track the user and sell the data to insurance companies, like car manufacturers already do. Also, it's entirely possible that the app won't work at all on free Android builds (dependencies on Google libraries). Other than the obvious range anxiety problem (80 miles just isn't e…

And if you drop your phone, you walk back home.
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