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Re: Jolla Phone Pre-Order

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Post by jeffbee » Fri, Dec 05, 2025, 4:54 PM UTC

stackedinserter wrote: post #27

Nifty3929 wrote: post #19

I love the idea of the privacy switch, but I want more: I want a hard, electromechanical switch for each of: Mic, camera, GPS, wifi, cell, bluetooth. These can be tiny and aesthetically pleasing, as long as I can easily flip on/off the one I want. The problem with having a single button, even configurable, is that it's all-or-nothing, and I might want different things at different times. But thanks so much for taking…

If it catches traction, there will be usb-connected phone cases that expose these switches to physical controls.

I don't think that's what anyone means by "physical controls" and if they do, then they don't know what they are talking about.

Re: Jolla Phone Pre-Order

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Post by dethos » Fri, Dec 05, 2025, 4:55 PM UTC

I'm a bit torn about this. On one hand, I really think viable alternatives to Android/iOS are now more necessary than ever, and I'm eager to explore this OS. On the other hand, I'm not in the mood to buy new hardware (right now) just to try it out.

Nevertheless, I hope they succeed.

Re: Jolla Phone Pre-Order

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Post by dijit » Fri, Dec 05, 2025, 4:55 PM UTC

mhitza wrote: post #18

47% percent of voters wanted a ~6" phone, and 12% of voters a ~7" phone. I guess me and the remaining 41% of voters are still left wishing for 5" phones to make a comeback.

Supply chain has left us.

Since there's no new development happening with small phones, we'd have to settle for "older spec" screens (IE, new stock iPhone 5 screens, with none of the colour accuracy, frame-rate etc improvements from the last 10 years).

People don't like "old spec", so they'd probably not buy those devices.

If you're a small player, then you're downstream of the supply chain, you don't make the rules.

Chicken and Egg problem.

Ironically people think there's no market for small phones due to apple making a "small phone" which had a larger screen size than an iPhone 6.. which was when phones started getting too big for me, and many people I spoke to.

So, you make a small phone that isn't actually small, it sells like poop so you presume that people don't want small phones..

Re: Jolla Phone Pre-Order

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Post by m4rtink » Fri, Dec 05, 2025, 4:55 PM UTC

wiseowise wrote: post #66

mariusor wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which proprietary blobs in Sailfish OS are worse than the others you were referring to?

Whole OS?

Basically all the middleware in Sailfish OS was always open source and many of the apps as well. They have been also IIRC finally open sourcing the primary apps as there are no longer pesky external investors forcikg them to keep things closed for weird reasons.

Re: Jolla Phone Pre-Order

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Post by lvspiff » Fri, Dec 05, 2025, 4:55 PM UTC

mhitza wrote: post #18

47% percent of voters wanted a ~6" phone, and 12% of voters a ~7" phone. I guess me and the remaining 41% of voters are still left wishing for 5" phones to make a comeback.

What about those of us that were expecting an earpiece and glasses with AR for calling by now?

Re: Jolla Phone Pre-Order

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Post by sho_hn » Fri, Dec 05, 2025, 4:57 PM UTC

dijit wrote: post #73

mhitza wrote: post #18

47% percent of voters wanted a ~6" phone, and 12% of voters a ~7" phone. I guess me and the remaining 41% of voters are still left wishing for 5" phones to make a comeback.

Supply chain has left us. Since there's no new development happening with small phones, we'd have to settle for "older spec" screens (IE, new stock iPhone 5 screens, with none of the colour accuracy, frame-rate etc improvements from the last 10 years). People don't like "old spec", so they'd probably not buy those devices. If you're a small player, then you're downstream of the supply chain, you don't make the rules.…

Re us/we, you're not associated with Jolla, right? For clarity.

Re: Jolla Phone Pre-Order

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Post by mariusor » Fri, Dec 05, 2025, 4:57 PM UTC

getpokedagain wrote: post #46

rckt wrote: post #17

It would be great if all these companies contributed to a some kind of a unified modular platform like Project ARA. I see a lot of new devices, but they all do their own stuff. They produce hardware for their software, the end result is the same as with big brands. Most of these devices are usable while they are supported by these companies. Some of them allow installing custom Android roms, but not many. Looks like…

Am I the only one who just feels burnt out on these type of projects? We have a plethora of raspberry pi and other arm mobile developer kits that all just fail to deliver. They make great pet projects but fail at what most mobile phones do great which is provide a computer I can reliably and safely take with me in life. This pilet thing has 7 hours of battery life, is huge and will probably explode if I put it in my…

I'm not sure what you think Jolla is, but they have a track record of releasing phones that are good enough to be used as daily drivers. They are also targeting enthusiasts, but I've been using exclusively phones that run Sailfish OS (their main product) since 2014.

Re: Jolla Phone Pre-Order

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Post by m4rtink » Fri, Dec 05, 2025, 4:57 PM UTC

999900000999 wrote: post #52

mpol wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It uses Bluez for bluetooth connections. Or maybe that's what you meant ;) Bluetooth is a hack anyway.

Bluetooth barely works on Android. I have no confidence in it working constantly on a new OS like this.

The new OS launched in 2013 on production hardware and has a legacy even longer in the Maemo project under Nokia.

Re: Jolla Phone Pre-Order

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Post by dzink » Fri, Dec 05, 2025, 4:57 PM UTC

ActorNightly wrote: post #50

dzink wrote: post #48

Show the operating system. That is the core of what people will be using - they need to know what it looks like. How easy it is. The phone looks like all other phones.

https://sailfishos.org/

That page caters to corporations who want to restrict employee phones - worst possible marketing for consumers.

Re: Jolla Phone Pre-Order

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Post by mariusor » Fri, Dec 05, 2025, 4:58 PM UTC

dman wrote: post #69

abnercoimbre wrote: post #12

> Entering other markets, such as the U.S. and Canada are to be decided due course based on potential interest from the areas. As an American, I will order this phone as soon as it’s available to me! I’m not aware of any similar option for us at the moment so I’m a little sad.

They have a history of not shipping. They took my money for a tablet pre-order but never shipped anything. Didnt offer refunds either.

They did offer refunds in the form of vouchers for their shop. I can understand if that's not something everyone is interested in, but it's not nothing. I made use of that successfully.