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Re: Steve Jobs passed away one year ago - HN Frontpage

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Someone could have proven P=NP, and we wouldn't have noticed.

Minefold (YC W12) launched 3 hours before Steve Jobs died and got, uh, 23 upvotes[1] before disappearing into oblivion. [1] http://cl.ly/image/371P0B3j3g3H

Should have just relaunched a week later, no one would have noticed you "launched" twice!

Re: Steve Jobs passed away one year ago - HN Frontpage

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post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

not a troll. I seriously don't feel anything for him more than any other human.

But then why do you feel the need to post that? Do you often randomly walk up to groups of people and tell them you don't care about what they are discussing?

So comment threads on HN are now private discussions one has to be invited to?

Like the original commenter I am also tired of the celebrity worship that goes on here (and pretty much everywhere else). Yes, the man died. So do millions of others every day.

Re: Steve Jobs passed away one year ago - HN Frontpage

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post #38

To get a sense of clarity of his vision, read Jobs's 1985 Playboy Interview where he predicts the future before setting out to spend the rest of his life to invent it. http://www.txtpost.com/playboy-interview-steven-jobs/ RIP Steve Jobs

Soo.. can some of the older people around here tell me why this interview by a freelance writer for the Playboy is better and more comprehensive than everything I've read in a month? Just what exactly happened to journalism?

You're using one cherry-picked article from 1985 as representative of all journalism of that era.

Nothing's happened to journalism, there's just lots more of it, so you have to do some work to get your filters in place.

Re: Steve Jobs passed away one year ago - HN Frontpage

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post #56

My mom sometimes talks about how she felt when John Lennon died, and I always sort of scoffed at the notion of being overwhelmed by the death of a celebrity stranger. I understood what she meant when Steve Jobs died - I was really overwhelmed, I think because I derived such a big part of my life, livelihood, and identity from iOS over the last 3-4 years.

Jobs was a good business man and decent presenter, to compare him to John Lennon is utterly inappropriate.

It isn't his business accumen or presentation skills that people miss. It is his ability to inspire people to do better. His passion for doing something amazing.

In many ways John Lennon was the same. Read a biography of him and listen to outtakes from Beatles recordings to see what I mean.

Imagine if we all had that kind of passion and devotion to being and creating the best. Imagine if we all created such amazing things that Steve Jobs and John Lennon looked... normal.

Re: Steve Jobs passed away one year ago - HN Frontpage

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post #38

To get a sense of clarity of his vision, read Jobs's 1985 Playboy Interview where he predicts the future before setting out to spend the rest of his life to invent it. http://www.txtpost.com/playboy-interview-steven-jobs/ RIP Steve Jobs

Soo.. can some of the older people around here tell me why this interview by a freelance writer for the Playboy is better and more comprehensive than everything I've read in a month? Just what exactly happened to journalism?

First of all Playboy been as controversial as it was invested a lot in interviews just to show that it wasn’t another porn magazine. They managed to take interviews from people who are generally considered inaccessible.

Second although Jobs was known to be whim back in 1985 he wasn’t as successful as it was when he died so my guess is that the interviewer wouldn’t have any problem to push him a bit and make the best out of an interview. Years later people seemed to be frightened of the idea asking him the wrong question.

Lastly, in 1985 Jobs was like thirty years younger than when he died. He would be burning to express his thoughts and his vision of the future. Plus he was still the underdog back then, there were some huge corporations around and Apple compared to them was nothing.

Re: Steve Jobs passed away one year ago - HN Frontpage

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My mom sometimes talks about how she felt when John Lennon died, and I always sort of scoffed at the notion of being overwhelmed by the death of a celebrity stranger. I understood what she meant when Steve Jobs died - I was really overwhelmed, I think because I derived such a big part of my life, livelihood, and identity from iOS over the last 3-4 years.

For me, last year was a one two punch. Two people I paid a lot of attention to both passed within the span of a few months. First Jack Layton and then Steve Jobs. Jobs' death I knew was coming, but still struck me. While Layton's death ruined my day (as it wasn't immediately obvious that he would pass). I completely understand the feeling.

Re: Steve Jobs passed away one year ago - HN Frontpage

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I derived such a big part of my [...] identity from iOS Get a life.

I had the exact same thought when I read that, won't lie about it. But that doesn't mean you need to say it out loud. Substitute anything for "iOS/Apple" in that line, even something really dumb (say, um, "4Chan"), and it's still a dick thing to say. I said I had the same thought, but in this particular case, that's my problem for opening a thread about Steve Jobs died a year ago, what'd you expect if not people shar…

Some things need to be said, though the wording the poster chose was very poor. Something more beneficial to conversation like "I don't think that iOS would ever qualify as a cornerstone of my life. Why does it for you?" would've been a better move.

As for your other point, though--picking 4chan as a an example of a dumb life influence is not something I'd agree with. 4chan is a fairly unmoderated environment, whereas iOS is famous for being a heavily-managed walled garden.

I, for one, would rather list 4chan than iOS, if for no other reason than growing up in the technological equivalent of the burbs isn't something I'd be proud of.

Re: Steve Jobs passed away one year ago - HN Frontpage

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It's funny to see this as I (and I suspect probably many others) felt compelled to take a screenshot when this happened, because it was so bizarre to see the front page consist of a single story - http://dl.dropbox.com/u/140966/hn_jobs.png I also did the same when Dennis Ritchie died, though not every story was about that - http://dl.dropbox.com/u/140966/hn_ritchie.png RIP to both of them.

That's so unfortunate. I'm kind of bummed that (at least in your sample) the HN community seems to spam more about a businessman than an engineer.

I'm curious what will happen when Woz passes.

Re: Steve Jobs passed away one year ago - HN Frontpage

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post #56

My mom sometimes talks about how she felt when John Lennon died, and I always sort of scoffed at the notion of being overwhelmed by the death of a celebrity stranger. I understood what she meant when Steve Jobs died - I was really overwhelmed, I think because I derived such a big part of my life, livelihood, and identity from iOS over the last 3-4 years.

Jobs was a good business man and decent presenter, to compare him to John Lennon is utterly inappropriate.

Also, humans have spent a lot more time on computers and iPhones than they have listening to the Beatles.

Re: Steve Jobs passed away one year ago - HN Frontpage

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My mom sometimes talks about how she felt when John Lennon died, and I always sort of scoffed at the notion of being overwhelmed by the death of a celebrity stranger. I understood what she meant when Steve Jobs died - I was really overwhelmed, I think because I derived such a big part of my life, livelihood, and identity from iOS over the last 3-4 years.

> I derived such a big part of my ... identity from iOS

I don't think that iOS would ever qualify as a cornerstone of my life. Why does it for you? Just curious.

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