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Warner Bros Begins Exclusive Deal Talks With Netflix

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Post by lastdong »

burningChrome wrote: post #39
shubhamjain wrote: post #13

Could there be a worse news regarding where content production is headed? Netflix production is trash and all they care is about metrics like viewers who have watched at least x% of certain content. Cuz if they have, and they accumulate y minutes of viewing, they are unlikely to cancel. This is to the point that they are exclusively making dumbed-down content that can be good background noise while viewers scroll thr…

HBO cancelled Perry Mason, one of the better done noir detective series. That was kind of the nail in the coffin for me. I still get it free because of my AT&T subscription, but I can't argue that Netflix has really come out with anything really worth watching either - Department Q and Mindhunter are only two that I think of that were decent. I agree that the majority of stuff on streaming services is complete garbag…

Thank you for mentioning Department Q and Mindhunter — these were amazing. Netflix has a lot of content some of it is actually really good.

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Post by watwut »

shubhamjain wrote: post #13

Could there be a worse news regarding where content production is headed? Netflix production is trash and all they care is about metrics like viewers who have watched at least x% of certain content. Cuz if they have, and they accumulate y minutes of viewing, they are unlikely to cancel. This is to the point that they are exclusively making dumbed-down content that can be good background noise while viewers scroll thr…

I like netflix content generally. I havent had issue to find something to watch. And they have a lot of good dubbing, so I use it for foreign language traing too.

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Post by watwut »

echelon wrote: post #8
d3Xt3r wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except there's still Paramount, Disney and Hulu, and even if you get them all, there's no guarantee you can stream what you want to watch due to some bullshit regional distribution rights restrictions, which makes no sense in the digital era...

HBO is destination television - it's the taste that Netflix lacks and so desperately needs. WB and HBO together have the franchises that Netflix has been trying to build. DC, Harry Potter, Game of Thrones, Lord of the Rings (film + game rights - tv rights), West World, The Matrix, Mad Max, King Kong, all of Cartoon Network and Adult Swim. What does Paramount or Hulu have? It's a lot of fluff on the same or even lower…

Westworld, the show that dont exist because they would had to pay royalties to actors and workers?

Screw them. Likr, literally choosing to remove the show to make an example of it.

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Post by flanked-evergl »

mortsnort wrote: post #66
silisili wrote: post #35

I'm rather curious why they even want HBO. Yes HBO has had far, far more quality programs over the years, but it's not like Netflix hasn't had ample time and infinite money to do the same if they wanted to. Would be a sad day. I typically equate HBO content with focused quality, and Netflix content as the opposite.

Netflix paid $500M for the rights to Seinfeld for 5 years to give you an idea of what people are using Netflix for. Why make new content when you can sell old content?

Netflix is making new content though. I would prefer they stop, but they are doing it.

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Post by mrweasel »

bluehatbrit wrote: post #74

Great for shareholders, terrible for consumers. This is what we get when we allow rampant consolidation and throw out the idea of regulated competition.

It's not like there's really any competition anyway. Prices are going up, I can't switch from Netflix to HBO, because the content is available across platforms.

If Netflix just moves the HBO content to Netflix then that's one subscription less for a lot of people, so even if Netflix subscription goes up, many will still save money.

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Post by karel-3d »

Flatcircle wrote: post #64
karel-3d wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I prefer Netflix to Oracle-ied Paramount. I don't want Ellisons to own more than they do. Netflix is boring, Ellisons are evil.

Anyone that thinks Netflix buying WB would be better than the Ellisons knows nothing about the media business. Look at what James Cameron said about it last week, everyone prefers the Ellisons over Netflix because Netflix actively wants to kill the theatrical and physical media businesses

"they are evil but at least they are less into streaming." I don't know.

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Post by prodigycorp »

karel-3d wrote: post #42
shubhamjain wrote: post #13

Could there be a worse news regarding where content production is headed? Netflix production is trash and all they care is about metrics like viewers who have watched at least x% of certain content. Cuz if they have, and they accumulate y minutes of viewing, they are unlikely to cancel. This is to the point that they are exclusively making dumbed-down content that can be good background noise while viewers scroll thr…

I prefer Netflix to Oracle-ied Paramount. I don't want Ellisons to own more than they do. Netflix is boring, Ellisons are evil.

netflix buying warner would mean essentially the death of the theater business.

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Post by d3Xt3r »

echelon wrote: post #8
d3Xt3r wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except there's still Paramount, Disney and Hulu, and even if you get them all, there's no guarantee you can stream what you want to watch due to some bullshit regional distribution rights restrictions, which makes no sense in the digital era...

HBO is destination television - it's the taste that Netflix lacks and so desperately needs. WB and HBO together have the franchises that Netflix has been trying to build. DC, Harry Potter, Game of Thrones, Lord of the Rings (film + game rights - tv rights), West World, The Matrix, Mad Max, King Kong, all of Cartoon Network and Adult Swim. What does Paramount or Hulu have? It's a lot of fluff on the same or even lower…

Paramount has Star Trek, so it's a must-have for any Trekkie. And Disney has Star Wars, so it's a must-have for any nerf herder. :p

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Post by mrweasel »

silisili wrote: post #35

I'm rather curious why they even want HBO. Yes HBO has had far, far more quality programs over the years, but it's not like Netflix hasn't had ample time and infinite money to do the same if they wanted to. Would be a sad day. I typically equate HBO content with focused quality, and Netflix content as the opposite.

> it's not like Netflix hasn't had ample time and infinite money to do the same if they wanted to.

Yet they've failed, I think it's a culture problem. Buy HBO and hopefully carry over the culture and skills to Netflix that way is pretty much they only hope. Netflix created a few good series, but it's also clear that they don't have the writing talent to produce the volume they want.

Netflix can produce absolutely beautify shows, but they're not well written. They also can't buy content, because a large number of the license holders have their own streaming platform. Buying HBO could get them access to the content they need, if the contracts and licensing carry over.

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