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Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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Post by madars »

littlestymaar wrote: post #30
madars wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Date displayed in Google Search results is often the self-described date from the document itself. Take a look at this "FOIA + before Jan 1, 1990" search: https://www.google.com/search?q=foia&tbs=cdr:1,cd_max:1/1/19... None of these documents were actually published on the web by then, incl., a Watergate PDF bearing date of Nov 21, 1974 - almost 20 years before PDF format got released. Of course, WWW itself started i…

Are you sure it works the same way for documents that Google indexed at the time of publication? (Because obviously for things that existed before Google, they had to accept the publication date at face value).

Yes, it works the same way even for content Google indexed at publication time. For example, here are chatgpt.com links that Google displays as being from 2010-2020, a period when Google existed but ChatGPT did not:

https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Achatgpt.com&tbs=cdr%3...

So it looks like Google uses inferred dates over its own indexing timestamps, even for recently crawled pages from domains that didn't exist during the claimed date range.

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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Post by teiferer »

jrjfjgkrj wrote: post #47
swyx wrote: post #4

somebody said once we are mining "low-background tokens" like we are mining low-background (radiation) steel post WW2 and i couldnt shake the concept out of my head (wrote up in https://www.latent.space/i/139368545/the-concept-of-low-back... - but ironically repeating something somebody else said online is kinda what i'm willingly participating in, and it's unclear why human-origin tokens should be that much higher s…

every human generation built upon the slop of the previous one but we appreciated that, we called it "standing on the shoulders of giants"

Because the pyramids, the theory of general relativity and the Linux kernel are all totally comparable to ChatGPT output. /s

Why is anybody still surprised that the AI bubble made it that big?

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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Post by teiferer »

jader201 wrote: post #49
gblargg wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does AI use double hyphens? I thought the point was to find who wasn't AI that used proper em dashes.

Anytime I do this — and I did it long before AI did — they are always em dashes, because iOS/macOS translates double dashes to em dashes. I think there may be a way to disable this, but I don’t care enough to bother. If people want to think my posts are AI generated, oh well.

There is also the difference in using space around em-dashes.

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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Post by fragmede »

maplethorpe wrote: post #35
k_roy wrote: post #5

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Is it really here to stay? If the wheels fells off the investment train and ChatGPT etc. disappeared tomorrow, how many people would be running inference locally? I suspect most people either wouldn't meet the hardware requirements or would be too frustrated with the slow token generation to bother. My mom certainly wouldn't be talking to it anymore. Remember that a year or two ago, people were saying something simil…

Maybe you don't love your mom enough to do this, but if ChatGPT disappeared tomorrow and it was something she really used and loved, I wouldn't think twice before buying her a rig powerful enough to run a quantized downlodable model on, though I'm not current on which model or software would be the best for her purposes. I get that your relationship with your mother, or your financial situation might be different though.

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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Post by bigiain »

jrjfjgkrj wrote: post #47
swyx wrote: post #4

somebody said once we are mining "low-background tokens" like we are mining low-background (radiation) steel post WW2 and i couldnt shake the concept out of my head (wrote up in https://www.latent.space/i/139368545/the-concept-of-low-back... - but ironically repeating something somebody else said online is kinda what i'm willingly participating in, and it's unclear why human-origin tokens should be that much higher s…

every human generation built upon the slop of the previous one but we appreciated that, we called it "standing on the shoulders of giants"

> we called it "standing on the shoulders of giants"

We do not see nearly so far though.

Because these days we are standing on the shoulders of giants that have been put into a blender and ground down into a slippery pink paste and levelled out to a statistically typical 7.3mm high layer of goo.

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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Post by IshKebab »

Krssst wrote: post #58
pknerd wrote: post #55

Something generated by humans does not mean high quality.

Yes, but AI-generated is always low quality so it makes sense to filter it out.

I wouldn't say always... Especially because you probably only noticed the bad slop. Usually it is crap though.

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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Post by jrjfjgkrj »

teiferer wrote: post #72
jrjfjgkrj wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

every human generation built upon the slop of the previous one but we appreciated that, we called it "standing on the shoulders of giants"

Because the pyramids, the theory of general relativity and the Linux kernel are all totally comparable to ChatGPT output. /s Why is anybody still surprised that the AI bubble made it that big?

for every theory of relativity the is the religious non-sense and superstitions of the medieval ages or today

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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Post by bigiain »

maplethorpe wrote: post #25
tkgally wrote: post #16

Somewhat related, the leaderboard of em-dash users on HN before ChatGPT: https://www.gally.net/miscellaneous/hn-em-dash-user-leaderbo...

They should include users who used a double hyphen, too -- not everyone has easy access to em dashes.

That would false positive me. I have used double dashes to delimit quote attribution for decades.

Like this:

"You can't believe everything you read on the internet." -- Abraham Lincoln, personal correspondence, 1863

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