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X210Ai is a new motherboard to upgrade ThinkPad X201/200

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Re: X210Ai is a new motherboard to upgrade ThinkPad X201/200

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Open Arm devices sadly live in the shadow of closed Apple Mac Mini perf and battery life, and Asahi is stuck at 2022 M2 SoC. Some older Arm Chromebooks have mainline Linux support and also run coreboot. Qualcomm and MediaTek/Nvidia are "maybe next year" Linux and closed firmware.

"Open" is a misnomer, I really wish people would stop throwing it around with regards to ARM systems because it's a serious problem. Apple's devices are no better or worse about this. It's just the nature of the SoC ecosystem. > Apple Mac Mini perf and battery life Battery life? You mean the macbook, not the mini, right? Speaking candidly, if both MNT devices and Apple's devices had perfect upstream support, I'd choo…

> If the distribution was minimalist like KISS or Void

Seems like you can install Arch on an MNT device. [1]

[1]: https://community.mnt.re/t/install-arch-linux-arm-on-mnt/742...

Re: X210Ai is a new motherboard to upgrade ThinkPad X201/200

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Anyone know if there's anything like this for the Dell Precision M6600? (Or upgrade suggestions for someone who loved that laptop? Framework? Thinkpad?)

> upgrade suggestions for someone who loved that laptop? The repair-friendly [0] StarBook and StarFighter line might interest you. They generally seem good value for money and ship worldwide. Here's a 96g DDR5 + Intel Core Ultra 7 configuration at ~$2200: https://starlabs.systems/products/starbook-ultra?variant=552... Their funder/backer is a mystery (to me) though. [0] https://support.starlabs.systems/what-is-the-st…

Seconded. Coreboot and lvfs firmware upgrades and completely repairable with inventory parts.

Re: X210Ai is a new motherboard to upgrade ThinkPad X201/200

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Can't recommend starlabs enough, fully replaceable everything, coreboot, modern specs, Linux compat, firmware over lvfs

Thanks for the rec, didn't know they had moved on from Clevo designs to their own board design made by Quanta/Compal/Wistrom etc.

Didn't know they were rebadging in the past, they've been using their own hardware designs for at least 6 years.

Re: X210Ai is a new motherboard to upgrade ThinkPad X201/200

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I have an older-gen aftermarket-mobo X210 (Kaby Lake iirc?) and I really really loved it, but the eDP flex-PCB for the upgraded screen eventually gave out (stock screen was LVDS), making the display only work at the one exact hinge angle where the broken trace still makes contact. The inability to just go to a storefront and buy that part is why I switched to a Framework 12 instead.

Re: X210Ai is a new motherboard to upgrade ThinkPad X201/200

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hello, as always: imho (!) i own a x200s ... bought it in march of 2009 =?> so its approaching 17 years ... it was a really great device with one of the best keyboards for a small notebook. and i still use it multiple times a week for example to browse hackernews, reddit, ... or watch some video etc. buuuut: its nearly 17 years old ... everything is starting to wear - i wouldn't invest a dime into it right now. what…

I also have an x200s that I got new in 2009. I've replaced the keyboard, battery (multiple times), palm rest, upper shell, and probably a few other things I'm forgetting about. I haven't put new parts on it for a few years, but as recent as ~2020 they were very easy to get and affordable. My little x200s is a dedicated HaikuOS machine now and I hope it keeps running for another two decades!

The X200 of Theseus. ;)

Re: X210Ai is a new motherboard to upgrade ThinkPad X201/200

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Dissapointing. The X220 is built well and has a great keyboard. Any idea why the focus on the X200/201 instead of the X220/230?

I have no idea why they did, but some pros: X200 is less expensive, (I think) it has a little more room, and it doesn't have the X220's crazy design flaw with the lid shell. I also had better luck getting genuine replacement keyboards for the X200. Half of the X220 keyboards I stockpiled arrived as substandard garbage, even though I was trying to avoid that.

What's the lid shell design flaw (did a little googling couldn't find it)?

Re: X210Ai is a new motherboard to upgrade ThinkPad X201/200

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I have no idea why they did, but some pros: X200 is less expensive, (I think) it has a little more room, and it doesn't have the X220's crazy design flaw with the lid shell. I also had better luck getting genuine replacement keyboards for the X200. Half of the X220 keyboards I stockpiled arrived as substandard garbage, even though I was trying to avoid that.

What's the lid shell design flaw (did a little googling couldn't find it)?

According to https://old.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/1d13sb6/should_i_...:

> - Display lid is very fragile at the top where the wifi antennas are and can easily crack there

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