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Re: AI has a deep understanding of how this code works

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Post by genewitch »

inejge wrote: post #55
fzaninotto wrote: post #45

I've closed my share of AI-generated PRs on some OSS repositories I maintain. These contributors seem to jump from one project to another, until their contribution is accepted (recognized ?). I wonder how long the open-source ecosystem will be able to resist this wave. The burden of reviewing AI-generated PRs is already not sustainable for maintainers, and the number of real open-source contributors is decreasing. Si…

> I wonder how long the open-source ecosystem will be able to resist this wave. This PR was very successfully resisted: closed and locked without much reviewing. And with a lot of tolerance and patience from the developers, much more than I believe to be fruitful: the "author" is remarkably resistant to argument. So, I think that others can resist in the same way.

Has there been any posts where the AI-user goes "oh, that makes sense. Sorry. Carry on."?

Re: AI has a deep understanding of how this code works

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Post by dijksterhuis »

bsder wrote: post #9

Can we please go back to "You have to make an account on our server to contribute or pull from the git?" One of the biggest problems is the fact that the public nature of Github means that fixes are worth "Faux Internet Points" and a bunch of doofuses at companies like Google made "social contribution" part of the dumbass employee evaluation process. Forcing a person to sign up would at least stop people who need "Fa…

i’ve been quite happy moving over to gitlab as much as i can.

fewer people have a gitlab account — instant “not actually interested in helping” filter.

Re: AI has a deep understanding of how this code works

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Post by svantana »

aarestad wrote: post #58
anilgulecha wrote: post #36

For the longest time, Linus's dictum "Talk is cheap. Show me the code" held. Now that's fallen! New rules for the new world are needed..

“code is cheap, show me the talk” - ie “show me you _understand_ the ‘cheap’ code”

Doesn't work in this case because the 'talk' (github PR comments) is also computer generated. But in person (i.e. at work) it's a good strategy

Re: AI has a deep understanding of how this code works

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Post by the_gipsy »

oliwarner wrote: post #37

There are LLMs with more self-awareness than this guy. Repeatedly using AI to answer questions about the legitimacy of commits from an AI, to people who are clearly skeptical is breathtakingly dense. At least they're open about it. I did love the ~"I'll help maintain this trash mountain, but I'll need paying". Classy.

Yea that part is the icing on the cake.

Re: AI has a deep understanding of how this code works

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Post by paxys »

Even if you are okay with AI generated code in the PR, the fact that the community is taking time to engage with the author and asking reasonable questions/offering reasonable feedback and the author is simply copy-pasting walls of AI-generated text in response warrants an instant ban.

If you want to behave like a spam bot don't complain when people treat you like a spam bot.

Re: AI has a deep understanding of how this code works

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Post by fxtentacle »

"This seems to be largely a copy of the work done in OxCaml by @mshinwell and @spiessimon"

"The webpage credits another author: Native binary debugging for OCaml (written by Claude!) @joelreymont, could you please explain where you obtained the code in this PR?"

That pretty much sums up the experience of coding with LLMs. They are really damn awesome at regurgitating someone else's source code. And they have memorized all of GitHub. But just like how you can get sued for using Mickey Mouse in your advertisements (yes, even if AI drew it), you can get sued for stealing someone else's source code (yes, even if AI wrote it).

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