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Broccoli Man, Remastered

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Re: Broccoli Man, Remastered

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Post by morshu9001 »

jeffbee wrote: post #55
hiddencost wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Huh? The bureaucracy is way worse. BCID requirements. MDBs that take 4+ hours to roll out. The Byzantine array of different MDB group types, often with two party control. GDPR company compliance. Tagging proto fields with provenance. Documents are private by default now. Most support happens in chat groups, and is if you're not at deepmind your help requests are getting ignored. Spending a month filing GUTS tickets t…

The bureaucracy is why people trust Google with their data. I wouldn't use a Google if I thought they didn't have BCID and proto field provenance and the rest of it.

Yeah, it's also different from the pointless technical complexity that this video is about. But that exists too. Could've talked about how spinning up a cronjob the new way takes 2 weeks regardless of what it's doing, how there's a proliferation of different config languages, or how everything is deprecated / not ready still.

Re: Broccoli Man, Remastered

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Post by defen »

jeffbee wrote: post #55
hiddencost wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Huh? The bureaucracy is way worse. BCID requirements. MDBs that take 4+ hours to roll out. The Byzantine array of different MDB group types, often with two party control. GDPR company compliance. Tagging proto fields with provenance. Documents are private by default now. Most support happens in chat groups, and is if you're not at deepmind your help requests are getting ignored. Spending a month filing GUTS tickets t…

The bureaucracy is why people trust Google with their data. I wouldn't use a Google if I thought they didn't have BCID and proto field provenance and the rest of it.

How are you supposed to know that if you're evaluating whether to use a tool / service?

Re: Broccoli Man, Remastered

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Post by graypegg »

shadowgovt wrote: post #65
graypegg wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> In no world would I ever have put together a real cast and crew [...] 3 people, the phone with the best camera across those 3 people, and some costumes that aren't THAT had to recreate? Honestly could even skip the costumes and just print out two A4 sheets with orange bamboo shoots and broccoli and tape them to your shirt and I would honestly get a better kick out of that. It's fun to make stuff with friends, even…

They could do it live-action with friends (that would also be funny to see), but it kind of misses the meta-joke that the original was made with 90% computer automation. The joke is "a machine made this video tweny-ish years ago and here's what it looks like if you do that now."

That is true haha, I think I'm mostly thinking about what the GP comment mentioned, in that it just generating this replaces what otherwise would've been a fun afternoon with friends.

Re: Broccoli Man, Remastered

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Post by jeffbee »

defen wrote: post #72
jeffbee wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The bureaucracy is why people trust Google with their data. I wouldn't use a Google if I thought they didn't have BCID and proto field provenance and the rest of it.

How are you supposed to know that if you're evaluating whether to use a tool / service?

You could just read their whitepapers and accept them at face value. What other major SaaS providers are publishing about their technical countermeasures against insider risk?

If a company publishes loads of articles about how they have technical controls for privacy and security, through encryption and compartmentalization and code review and build provenance and so forth, and all the people who work/worked at said company are always whining about how onerous those processes are, then what gives you reason to doubt it?

Re: Broccoli Man, Remastered

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Post by hbn »

shadowgovt wrote: post #68
hbn wrote: post #29

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If the tech stack used to make that video makes it "AI slop" then every video game cutscene is AI slop.

Most videogame cutscenes (well, for AAA games; I'm going to ignore the wide, worthy, and growing ecosystem of "I had an idea and made it in Unity with purchased assets") use bespoke model and texture assets, motion-capture human animation, and voice acting. None of that is what an Xtranormal auto-puppet show is about.

Motion capture in bigger budget games only started to become common around the Xbox 360/PS3 generation. Go back to prior generations and it was a lot of "2 models facing each other and their mouths wiggle up and down while audio files play"

Pretty much exactly what you see in that video.

Re: Broccoli Man, Remastered

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Post by PlanksVariable »

TheGamerUncle wrote: post #38

>I am not the kind of person who thinks AI will replace actors blah blah blah. But I am glad these tools exist, because this video wouldn’t exist without AI. >In no world would I ever have put together a real cast and crew to remake a 15 year old inside joke video for Googlers, but I was able to make it with AI. BUT IT DID !! and part of the charm is that this involved real people talking, mutual understanding and a…

Have you ever watched the original? It most certainly did not involve real people talking (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t6L-FlfeaI).

In fact, the overtly robotic voices added to the humor of the original, IMO. It was lost in this translation.

Re: Broccoli Man, Remastered

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Post by srean »

boplicity wrote: post #49
TheGamerUncle wrote: post #38

>I am not the kind of person who thinks AI will replace actors blah blah blah. But I am glad these tools exist, because this video wouldn’t exist without AI. >In no world would I ever have put together a real cast and crew to remake a 15 year old inside joke video for Googlers, but I was able to make it with AI. BUT IT DID !! and part of the charm is that this involved real people talking, mutual understanding and a…

So much of what makes people willing to be moved by creative art is the willingness to believe they're investing in someone else's real thoughts & effort -- and opening themselves to a channel of real human connection & relationship. AI has raised the bar, in terms of making it more difficult to create the trust necessary for people to be willing to open themselves up to that connection.

Now if future AIs were shown to be capable of suffering then this could change.

Re: Broccoli Man, Remastered

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Post by wpm »

parpfish wrote: post #6

I would have kicked up the 4d3d3d3. Maybe thrown in a hat wobble.

Computer, load up Celery Man.

Now that I think of it, that skit was incredibly prescient. You can literally ask Gemini for more hat wobble now.

Re: Broccoli Man, Remastered

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Post by kridsdale3 »

hiddencost wrote: post #22
haburka wrote: post #2

I do wish they updated this to 2026 google! I don’t think it would be nearly as interesting though since they do get rid of most red tape but since everything is enterprise scale, it’s never easy.

Huh? The bureaucracy is way worse. BCID requirements. MDBs that take 4+ hours to roll out. The Byzantine array of different MDB group types, often with two party control. GDPR company compliance. Tagging proto fields with provenance. Documents are private by default now. Most support happens in chat groups, and is if you're not at deepmind your help requests are getting ignored. Spending a month filing GUTS tickets t…

This guy Googles.
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