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Re: The only GM EV1 ever publicly sold

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Post by zamadatix »

ashleyn wrote: post #68
madamelic wrote: post #42

I used to walk past one of these every day on my way to and from my dorm. My school apparently had no idea what it was for years and it just sat outside underneath the EE building and people would draw dicks in the dust on it. When they realized what it was, they immediately yonked it inside and made a student team to refurb it. It's super cool I got to see such a piece of history and rare car even if I didn't realiz…

Begs the question of how it escaped GM's clutches. All EV1s were leased with no buyout option, later recalled, and most crushed.

TFA says this is not the case, and mentions universities as some that received them at the end instead of the crusher.

Re: The only GM EV1 ever publicly sold

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Post by nradov »

sidewndr46 wrote: post #10
fragmede wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you do anything like that to trick the DMV into letting you register a BYD vehicle in California?

In California? Probably not. In other states? Well there are lots of military vehicles sold as explicitly non-road legal with a requirement of sale being that you can't title them. I see those with license plates and titles for sale in Texas all the time. I just don't happen to have much need for a Humvee or similar vehicle.

That's not quite how it works. If you legally purchase a military surplus vehicle then you'll generally get a title, the same as any other vehicle. But you might not be able to register it for use on public roads.

Buying a HMMWV (Humvee) is no problem and they can generally be registered in most states. Thousands of them were also sold new directly to civilians as the Hummer H1.

Re: The only GM EV1 ever publicly sold

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Post by shawn_w »

Tangurena2 wrote: post #48
potato3732842 wrote: post #3

Impound/tow/lien -> title has always been the easy button for getting legit title to a vehicle that was never supposed to be sold (UPS vans, Uhaul trailers, etc), so long as it was never reported stolen. Absolutely hilarious that he managed to work the "doesn't work it if pops up as stolen" angle in the opposite direction to make the car impossible to really do anything with (i.e. no junkyard can take it whole, no su…

Something similar happened to one of the Dominos delivery vehicles (a DXP [0]). The purchaser got sued for trademark violations [1]. In this case, the car was totaled in an accident and the insurance company sold it. [0] - https://ir.dominos.com/news-releases/news-release-details/do... [1] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qN-yLTDkAS4

"The Domino's DXP is the first purpose-built vehicle aimed at revolutionizing pizza delivery,"

I was hoping for a Deliverator. Alas, it was nowhere near as cool.

Re: The only GM EV1 ever publicly sold

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Post by ZeroGravitas »

bryanlarsen wrote: post #50
ZeroGravitas wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why did you name check Musk and not the actual founders of Tesla, Eberhard and Tarpenning, that took advantage of their experience with lithium batteries and the forward-thinking Californian regulatory regime to found their company there to build an electric sports car?

They didn't found their company to build electric sports cars, they founded their company to design and sell conversion kits, and famously got into a big argument with Musk when he wanted to sell complete cars.

I can't even find Elon stans with this take on the early Tesla drama, do you have a source?

Re: The only GM EV1 ever publicly sold

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Post by jiqiren »

api wrote: post #41
ZeroGravitas wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why did you name check Musk and not the actual founders of Tesla, Eberhard and Tarpenning, that took advantage of their experience with lithium batteries and the forward-thinking Californian regulatory regime to found their company there to build an electric sports car?

Good point, and they're worth name checking too, but the company didn't go anywhere big until Musk took over. Musk clearly has (or at least had) a great skill when it comes to scaling companies doing hard things. If he had one under his belt, like Tesla, I'd be willing to chalk it up to luck, but he has two: Tesla and SpaceX. Both have been spectacular successes doing things most people run away from screaming with t…

Musk likely wouldn’t have gone the way he did if he had just been invited to that White House EV summit.

Re: The only GM EV1 ever publicly sold

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Post by goodcanadian »

rvba wrote: post #54

> Except the car wasn’t there when the police arrived. “GM knew about this, and they smuggled the car separately from all the other cars out of the state,” Sawyer claims. > Because the car left the State, Sawyer had little recourse. “The cop says, ‘Well, the car’s out of State, contact the FBI.’ And I tried to contact the FBI, but they weren’t interested,” he tells me. I dont understand this part of the story. So if…

In this case, it is more of a question of whether the FBI considered it a criminal matter. The lessor was in possession of the car. The lessee filed a lawsuit against the lessor to get it back. It sounds more like a contract dispute: a civil matter.

Of course, this is simply my speculation.

Re: The only GM EV1 ever publicly sold

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Post by sidewndr46 »

nradov wrote: post #72
sidewndr46 wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In California? Probably not. In other states? Well there are lots of military vehicles sold as explicitly non-road legal with a requirement of sale being that you can't title them. I see those with license plates and titles for sale in Texas all the time. I just don't happen to have much need for a Humvee or similar vehicle.

That's not quite how it works. If you legally purchase a military surplus vehicle then you'll generally get a title, the same as any other vehicle. But you might not be able to register it for use on public roads. Buying a HMMWV (Humvee) is no problem and they can generally be registered in most states. Thousands of them were also sold new directly to civilians as the Hummer H1.

Not even close. A hummer is not an M998. It's a vehicle that share parts with an M998.

Re: The only GM EV1 ever publicly sold

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Post by api »

jiqiren wrote: post #76
api wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good point, and they're worth name checking too, but the company didn't go anywhere big until Musk took over. Musk clearly has (or at least had) a great skill when it comes to scaling companies doing hard things. If he had one under his belt, like Tesla, I'd be willing to chalk it up to luck, but he has two: Tesla and SpaceX. Both have been spectacular successes doing things most people run away from screaming with t…

Musk likely wouldn’t have gone the way he did if he had just been invited to that White House EV summit.

I'm not sure that's all it was, but him not being invited was definitely a travesty and clearly a result of in-crowd lobbying from established car makers with links to Washington.

Re: The only GM EV1 ever publicly sold

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Post by Obscurity4340 »

shawn_w wrote: post #74
Tangurena2 wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Something similar happened to one of the Dominos delivery vehicles (a DXP [0]). The purchaser got sued for trademark violations [1]. In this case, the car was totaled in an accident and the insurance company sold it. [0] - https://ir.dominos.com/news-releases/news-release-details/do... [1] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qN-yLTDkAS4

"The Domino's DXP is the first purpose-built vehicle aimed at revolutionizing pizza delivery," I was hoping for a Deliverator. Alas, it was nowhere near as cool.

Yoo-Hoo
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