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When UPS charged me a $684 tariff on $355 of vintage computer parts

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Re: When UPS charged me a $684 tariff on $355 of vintage computer parts

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Ah this is just another step towards Turkification[0] of USA. This situation is just how it is in Erdogan's Turkey but you still have way to go if you are able to get your package out of the customs in less than a few weeks and no hustle. When the trade deals and tariff conditions get sufficiently complex(it gets more complex every day as the president accommodates specific companies and personal favors), the bureauc…

It’s still a little hard to believe and terrifying how similar this particular title and the comments below are to what I would’ve read in Turkish forums circa 2010s.

For Turkey it only got worse from there.

Re: When UPS charged me a $684 tariff on $355 of vintage computer parts

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If the seller from the country doesn't pay the tariff then it gets passed to the consumer. Someone has to pay the tarrif to import a tariffed good.

It’s a joke about the administration’s line that the tariffs would be paid by other countries, not by American consumers.

Re: When UPS charged me a $684 tariff on $355 of vintage computer parts

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And herein lies the rub: It's been like this in many countries for the longest time. In Thailand, say, you receive an order from abroad, the post office sends you a slip and you have to pay the assessed duties to receive the package. It often ends up feeing arbitrary; some stuff comes through, others get assessed at a higher value and you have to show receipts and convince them that no, this isn't that expensive of an item. The officially published rate of X matters little when the assessed value is up to an overworked official (in the most generous of readings of the situation). Nothing's exempt; somehow gifts from family and used items always seem most likely to trigger the tripwire.

Ship something through DHL or a similar service, and they follow the letter of the law so you'll both end up paying the official duty (at least there, it's almost guaranteed to follow the declared value) plus their processing fee, storage fee, and whatever else they include. I've easily paid double the price of a product for all of those fees together.

And worst, it's all unpredictable. At least if there's a 10% sales tax you can calculate that into if you want to buy an item. But once you get hit enough times, you start just not feeling like it's worth the mental load, time, and random financial hit to order stuff.

America had no idea how good they had it, in the before times.

Re: When UPS charged me a $684 tariff on $355 of vintage computer parts

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Tariffs are great. They protect the struggling domestic IT industry and gives it time to ramp up its production of vintage computer parts.

We need manufacturing in the US. The service economy can't survive long term; you have to make things. Tariffs are not fun, but they are an important part of making that happen.

But, tariffs on used cameras or vintage electronics does not help bring manufacturing back. Let's just bring back the de minimis exemption for things like this. More industry targeted tariffs, fewer blanket tariffs.

Re: When UPS charged me a $684 tariff on $355 of vintage computer parts

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Tariffs are great. They protect the struggling domestic IT industry and gives it time to ramp up its production of vintage computer parts.

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Specifically thin sliced potatoes fried in industrial lubricants.

Re: When UPS charged me a $684 tariff on $355 of vintage computer parts

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I know one US business that used to make niche electronic product. Most components they used were from China. Got hit by the tariffs that wiped all the operating profit. Guy also had to sell his home and is now couchsurfing. Business is unlikely going to recover. Of course he considered making chips and other components in the US, but he was few billions short to start the fab.

a purported niche/low-volume electronics, but the profit is somehow dependent on BOM price? a tariff bump on a small BOM doesn’t take you from profitable to homeless. if that happened, the business already had seriously bad margins, bad cash flow, over-leverage, or maybe he was just doing it out of love getting paid maybe back for his time or not. tariffs might’ve hurt, but they don’t collapse a healthy niche hardwar…

Do you run a business with good margin, good cash flow, optimally leveraged and for profit? If yes, please tell us more about how tariffs have helped you.

Re: When UPS charged me a $684 tariff on $355 of vintage computer parts

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Yeah, I noped-out when I saw eBay's writeup on tariffs owed by the buyer (not paid by the seller): "Shipping carriers or US Customs usually charge $5–$30 in processing fees. Add the item price, import fees, and processing fees to estimate your final cost." https://pages.ebay.com/tariffs/ Not something I'm doing for a $5 item... I'll sit back and wait until the Supreme Court finds the tariffs are illegal, and the Fed…

How would this ever work? The vast bulk of tariffs are surely paid by the buyer, not the seller.

It's more nuanced than that.

Tariffs do not always 100% immediately get passed on to buyer.

If there's a $100 product you'd like to purchase and there's a 100% tariff, it won't be $200.

That product was made abroad, let's for $20. So the tariff should be $20, not $100.

The US-based owner will go to the supplier, say they're getting squeezed by tariffs and first they'll try to see what they can do to recategorize the tariff, or negotiate with their supplier to absorb some of the expense. Let's say that got it down to $15. The owner still doesn't want to increase costs by 15%, so they'll hold off for a while and absorb, and then eventually maybe increase 5-10 and absorb further; perhaps eventually going the full stretch - maybe not.

Re: When UPS charged me a $684 tariff on $355 of vintage computer parts

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know one US business that used to make niche electronic product. Most components they used were from China. Got hit by the tariffs that wiped all the operating profit. Guy also had to sell his home and is now couchsurfing. Business is unlikely going to recover. Of course he considered making chips and other components in the US, but he was few billions short to start the fab.

I stopped buying vintage cameras from Japan on eBay. Well, there's always the next administration…

I'm sure JD Vance administration will be more vintage-camera-friendly.
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