Live data from Hacker News

Kodak ran a nuclear device in its basement for decades

popularmechanics.com

71–80 of 172 posts

Re: Kodak ran a nuclear device in its basement for decades

#71
post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, however I suppose it is fuel for conspiracy theories.

no I think it's fuel for boiling water

Ah yes, nuclear energy, real hot, make water boil, make things happen.

You're telling me we don't have sci-fi energy harnessing capability to capture the nuclear energy itself and convert it to electricity?

It's 2025!

Re: Kodak ran a nuclear device in its basement for decades

#72
post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Climate activists backed and propagandized by the fossil fuel industry and the KGB. And now that there are a number of barriers to creating new nuclear, the propaganda has flipped with fossil fuel companies supporting nuclear because they know it'll be decades before anything real can happen. I have nothing against nuclear and if it can be built I'm for it. But at the moment, solar + battery is quick to deploy and ab…

> Climate activists backed and propagandized by the fossil fuel industry and the KGB Who are the current generation of climate activists backed and propagandized by?

one of the current approaches is to turn communities against solar and wind projects on the grounds that it's racist or disturbs plant life etc. This has advocates of environmental justice, which is an important concern on its own, weaponized against building renewable energy.

Here's one example in Florida, but it is happening around the US https://www.eenews.net/articles/fla-solar-plans-stoke-fight-...

The net effect is a win for the fossil fuel industry and a weakened environmental movement.

Re: Kodak ran a nuclear device in its basement for decades

#73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These public freak outs is also why we don't have abundant nuclear energy. The climate activists of the 60s-90s stopped us from building more reactors, one of the cleanest sources of energy ever known.

Climate activists backed and propagandized by the fossil fuel industry and the KGB. And now that there are a number of barriers to creating new nuclear, the propaganda has flipped with fossil fuel companies supporting nuclear because they know it'll be decades before anything real can happen. I have nothing against nuclear and if it can be built I'm for it. But at the moment, solar + battery is quick to deploy and ab…

> solar + battery is quick to deploy and about as cheap as you can get

Solar production is seasonal, batteries to carry over seasons are beyond expensive.

Otherwise 10x your dinner solar to get winter solar and now it's not cheap.

Re: Kodak ran a nuclear device in its basement for decades

#74

When I studied chemistry at university, only a handful of select students were introduced to the nuclear science lab in the basement. It had a lot of spicy isotopes, neutron sources, etc. Even as a chemistry student with free run of the place for years I had no idea it was in the building until the department head pulled a few of us aside. The reason for the informal secrecy, as it was explained to me, is that every…

Same is surprisingly common when weeding books in university libraries. Care is often taken disposing of material, as it can trigger a lot of drama if discovered by the student body.

Re: Kodak ran a nuclear device in its basement for decades

#76
post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

no I think it's fuel for boiling water

Ah yes, nuclear energy, real hot, make water boil, make things happen. You're telling me we don't have sci-fi energy harnessing capability to capture the nuclear energy itself and convert it to electricity? It's 2025!

Found it kind of depressing that this seems to be the current strategy for fusion as well.

You have this insane device that produces a million degree hot ring of plasma and use it... to boil water...

Re: Kodak ran a nuclear device in its basement for decades

#77
post #55
post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, however I suppose it is fuel for conspiracy theories.

Conspiracists and media brainwashed people will react this way no matter what. Doesn’t matter whether it’s secretive or not. It’s not about you or the subject matter but their need to feel important or in possession of some truth THEY don’t want you to know.

I suspect its less about the need to feel special than you imagine.

My take is that these folks can't accept that nobody is actually driving. It terrifies them to realize that we are all aboard a rudderless ship, so they imagine these secret cabals to be able to sleep at night.

Take COVID. There is insufficient proof that it was the result of lab work, but many many people prefer that warm fuzzy thought over acknowledging that mutating is just what viruses do, and always have done. Knowing that we're all one unlucky mutation away from grisly death is just too much for some folks. "It can't happen again, we shutdown that lab!"

To those people it has to be a nice, neat conspiracy. That way someone is in control, and if we just put those few villains in their place everyone will be safe from viruses, economic instabilty, immigrants, and the boogey man forever.

Re: Kodak ran a nuclear device in its basement for decades

#78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The actual actual problem is energy per acre of land per year. Solar is king in places like west Texas and Nevada. Massive sunny flat sprawling landscapes where the land is practically free. It's a different story in places like Massachusetts or New York, where land is expensive and the sun is mildly sunny. Gas becomes much more competitive because you only need 5 acres instead of 500, and the energy is 24/7.

Long distant transmission lines would help with that. Also, I want to point out we need to decarbonize, so I don’t think gas considers all externalities that it causes, like air pollution.

The problem is that people don't really want to pay for it.

When you compare the rates at which people recognize the need to decarbonize, to the rates at which people are willing to pay 20-50% more for green energy, an obvious and expected trend arises.... people overwhelming don't want to put their money where there mouth is. Or they want someone elses money to go where there mouth is.

It needs to be understood that almost all those "green energy is cheaper than fossil fuels" studies use the best case scenario to calculate those values.

To put that another way, gas meets it's ideal pretty much everywhere, whereas green energy meets it's ideal in small, often far from society, spots. Transmission can bridge the gap to a degree, but it's then a cost multiplier.

A carbon tax is a good way to balance this, but man, people vote hard to not have to spend more of their own money. (I don't want to pay for it/I only want it if billionaires pay for it)

Re: Kodak ran a nuclear device in its basement for decades

#79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But at the moment, solar + battery is quick to deploy and about as cheap as you can get. The actual equation is solar + battery + gas fired power plant. That’s the dirty secret behind intermittent power sources and why fossil fuel companies are all investing in solar and wind. Batteries are simply not enough to face the long term intermittence. It’s purely an intra-day solution at the moment and nobody knows how to…

The actual actual problem is energy per acre of land per year. Solar is king in places like west Texas and Nevada. Massive sunny flat sprawling landscapes where the land is practically free. It's a different story in places like Massachusetts or New York, where land is expensive and the sun is mildly sunny. Gas becomes much more competitive because you only need 5 acres instead of 500, and the energy is 24/7.

"how many acres are in the gas field??" I type into the goose meme generator.

Re: Kodak ran a nuclear device in its basement for decades

#80

When I studied chemistry at university, only a handful of select students were introduced to the nuclear science lab in the basement. It had a lot of spicy isotopes, neutron sources, etc. Even as a chemistry student with free run of the place for years I had no idea it was in the building until the department head pulled a few of us aside. The reason for the informal secrecy, as it was explained to me, is that every…

RPI?
Post reply on HN