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Re: Agentic pelican on a bicycle

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If you give it credit for the chain, you need to also notice that that bike has a fixed front wheel. It literally can not be turned.

How do you know the wheel is fixed?

There's a bar going from the front wheel axis to the saddle. The only way that wheel can be twisted is if that bar allows in-axis rotation. That's now how steering on a bike works.

Re: Agentic pelican on a bicycle

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How do you know the wheel is fixed?

There's a bar going from the front wheel axis to the saddle. The only way that wheel can be twisted is if that bar allows in-axis rotation. That's now how steering on a bike works.

Ahhh yes of course - turned. For some reason my mind ran with that as spun. Thanks!

Re: Agentic pelican on a bicycle

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There's a bar going from the front wheel axis to the saddle. The only way that wheel can be twisted is if that bar allows in-axis rotation. That's now how steering on a bike works.

Ahhh yes of course - turned. For some reason my mind ran with that as spun. Thanks!

haha, yea then I understand the confusion :P

Re: Agentic pelican on a bicycle

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No, I don't have anything against using LLMs to write. My problem is that I enjoy reading people in part for diversity of style. I already spend too much time reading LLM outputs on my own interactions. And I get sick of their style because of it. So when I read it during leisure time, it just triggers a gut rejection. Especially because they are so formulaic / template-y.

I get sick not only due to overexposure to LLM style, but also because I associate it now with a very poor substance-to-style ratio. LLMs tend to not only overuse but also misuse those turns of phrases it returns to obsessively. For example, enumerating three items where one is just another way to reference one of the first two, or it's of a different kind and doesn't really fit with the other two items. Or it will u…

Oh spot on. Forcing the logic to fit the formula is an obvious giveaway.

I wish it had the Wikipedia style of writing as a default, as in, much more matter-of-fact writing (even if not everything is a fact).

I think part of the problem is that people overwhelmingly vote for this style with up votes and revealed preferences.

Maybe there should be a more meticulous feedback / prompt system where I can highlight a paragraph or sentence and ask annotate my feedback so that it doesn't go for that style.

Re: Agentic pelican on a bicycle

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I feel like I’ve seen this with code too, where it’s unlikely to scrap something and try a new approach a more likely to double down iterating on a bad approach. For the svg generation, it would be an interesting experiment to seed it with increasingly poor initial images and see at what point if any the models don’t anchor on the initial image and just try something else

Yeah, for code I'll often start an entirely new chat and paste in just the bits I liked from the previous attempt.

> Yeah, for code I'll often start an entirely new chat and paste in just the bits I liked from the previous attempt.

Hi Simon, it is very likely that I am misunderstanding your comment, however:

Do you use chatbot UIs like chatgtp.com, claudi.ai, LibreChat for coding, instead of something Cursor, Windsurf, Kiro, etc?

If that is the case, I am really curious about this. Or, did you just mean for benchmarking various models via simple chat UIs?

Re: Agentic pelican on a bicycle

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Yeah, for code I'll often start an entirely new chat and paste in just the bits I liked from the previous attempt.

> Yeah, for code I'll often start an entirely new chat and paste in just the bits I liked from the previous attempt. Hi Simon, it is very likely that I am misunderstanding your comment, however: Do you use chatbot UIs like chatgtp.com, claudi.ai, LibreChat for coding, instead of something Cursor, Windsurf, Kiro, etc? If that is the case, I am really curious about this. Or, did you just mean for benchmarking various m…

I'm usually in either the ChatGPT or Claude web interfaces or working directly in Claude Code or Codex CLI.

In either case case I'll often reset the context by starting a new session.

Re: Agentic pelican on a bicycle

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> Yeah, for code I'll often start an entirely new chat and paste in just the bits I liked from the previous attempt. Hi Simon, it is very likely that I am misunderstanding your comment, however: Do you use chatbot UIs like chatgtp.com, claudi.ai, LibreChat for coding, instead of something Cursor, Windsurf, Kiro, etc? If that is the case, I am really curious about this. Or, did you just mean for benchmarking various m…

I'm usually in either the ChatGPT or Claude web interfaces or working directly in Claude Code or Codex CLI. In either case case I'll often reset the context by starting a new session.

Thanks for the answer. OK, yes. That makes a lot more sense. I am context greedy ever since I read that Adobe research paper that I shared with you months ago. [0]

The whole "context engineering" concept is certainly a thing, though I do dislike throwing around the word "engineer" all willy-nilly like that. :)

In any case, thanks for the response. I just wanted to make sure that I was not missing something.

[0] https://github.com/adobe-research/NoLiMa

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