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Cuda is king
Still? Really? Why?
Better support than MPS and nothing Apple is shipping today can compete with even the high end consumer CUDA devices in actual speed.
Asus Ascent GX10
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#72How much does that thing cost? I don't see a price on the page.
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#73These AI boxes resemble gaming consoles in both form factor and architecture, makes me curious if they could make good gaming machines.
Likely not. Bit like the AI focused cards get their ass kicked by much cheaper gaming cards. The focus has diverged Plus ofc software stack for gaming on this isn’t available
Eh, I wouldn't be so hasty:
1) This still has raster hardware, even ray tracing cores. It's not technically an "AI focused card" like the AMD Instinct hardware or Nvidia's P40-style cards.
2) It kinda does have a stack. ARM is the hardest part to work around, but Box86 will get the older DirectX titles working. The GPU is Vulkan compliant too, so it should be able to leverage Proton/DXVK to accommodate the modern titles that don't break on ARM.
The tough part is the price. I don't think ARM gaming boxes will draw many people in with worse performance at a higher price.
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#74"Nvidia dgx os", ugh. It would be a lot more enticing if that thing could run stock Linux.
What would be the advantages, exactly?
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#75Does anyone have any information on how much this will cost? Or is it one of those products where if you have to ask you can't afford it.
Lots of existing posts in this discussion talking about prices in various regions and configurations.
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#76Couldn't you buy a Mac Ultra with more memory for the same price?
My reasons for not choosing an Apple product for such a use-case:
1- I vote with my wallet, do I want to pay a company to be my digital overlord, doing everything they can to keep me inside their ecosystem? I put too much effort to earn my freedom to give it up that easily.
2- Software: Almost certainly, I would want to run linux on this. Do I want to have something that has or eventually will have great mainstream linux support, or something with closed specs that people in Asahi try to support with incredible skills and effort? I prefer the system with openly available specs.
I've extensively used mac, iphone, ipad over time. The only apple device I ever bought was an ipad, and I would never buy it, if I knew they deliberately disable multitasking on it.
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#77Any good ideas for what these can be used for? I am still trying to think a use case that a Ryzen AI Max/MacBook or a plain gaming gpu cannot cover.
It's very, very good as an ARM Linux development machine; the Cortex-X925s are Zen5 class (with per-core L2 caches twice as big, even!) and it has a lot of them; the small cores aren't slouches either (around Apple M1 levels of perf IIRC?) GB10 might legitimately be the best high-performance Linux-compatible ARM workstation you can buy right now, and as a bonus it comes with a decent GPU.
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#79Why is every computer listing nowadays look the same with the glowing golden and blue chip images and the dynamic images that appear when you scroll down.
Please give me a good old html table with specs will ya?
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#80Seems this is basically DGX Spark with 1TB of disk so about $1000 bucks cheaper. DGX Spark has not been received well (at least online, Carmack saying it runs at half the spec, low memory bandwidth etc.) so perhaps this is way to reduce buyers regret, you are out only $3000 and not $4000 (with DGX Spark).
Simon Willison seems to like his: https://til.simonwillison.net/llms/codex-spark-gpt-oss
Performance wise it was able to spit out about half of a buggy version of Space Invaders as a single HTML file in roughly a minute.