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Thiel and Zuckerberg on Facebook, Millennials, and predictions for 2030 (2019)

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Re: Thiel and Zuckerberg on Facebook, Millennials, and predictions for 2030 (2019)

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Post by virgilp »

latexr wrote: post #57
misiti3780 wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, he is *as* well known as those people. You think more people know who Ed Sheeran than Zuckerberg?

Are you aware that Ed Sheeran is one of—and was not that long ago the —best selling music artist in the world? The fact you only nitpicked a single name from that list is, I think, quite telling. We know who Zuckerberg is. Non-tech-nerds just going on with their lives don’t for the most part, even if they use apps from Meta. If they even heard the name, it was due to some negative news related to Facebook or Meta.

This is some data about US:

https://today.yougov.com/ratings/entertainment/fame/people/a...

Zuckerberg is 49, Sheeran is 169 (Taylor Swift is on 4; Bieber, Lady Gaga and Beyoncé are also more famous than Zuckerberg; the rest in the list are less famous)

Re: Thiel and Zuckerberg on Facebook, Millennials, and predictions for 2030 (2019)

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Post by ben_w »

tempfile wrote: post #65
latexr wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you aware that Ed Sheeran is one of—and was not that long ago the —best selling music artist in the world? The fact you only nitpicked a single name from that list is, I think, quite telling. We know who Zuckerberg is. Non-tech-nerds just going on with their lives don’t for the most part, even if they use apps from Meta. If they even heard the name, it was due to some negative news related to Facebook or Meta.

This absolutely does not translate into him being well-known.

People don't buy Facebook ads or make Facebook accounts because Mark Zuckerberg is there, but they do buy Ed Sheeran music because it has the name "Ed Sheeran" written on it.

That said, I'm not into music and assumed he was a footballer.

Re: Thiel and Zuckerberg on Facebook, Millennials, and predictions for 2030 (2019)

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Post by tempfile »

DrewADesign wrote: post #10

** maybe edit of un-shame: ... is it? * edit of shame: it's satire. Confirmation bias is a hell of a drug. > there is a certain sense in which Mark Zuckerberg has been cast as 'the spokesman' for the Millennial generation — as the single person who gives voice to the hopes and fears and the unique experiences of this generation, at least in the USA That is an absolutely bananas read of Zuck's place in American cultur…

Is it really satire? If so, I'm genuinely angry this was not flagged as such. But there is no indication on the website, and they have some older emails which sound familiar as authentic.

Re: Thiel and Zuckerberg on Facebook, Millennials, and predictions for 2030 (2019)

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Post by seydor »

buellerbueller wrote: post #56
iwontberude wrote: post #7

This article flame bait. No point in keeping it up.

Satire, by definition, is flamebait. That this particular of satire is nigh on indistinguishable from reality/so believable indicates how good a satire it is.

How is this satire

Re: Thiel and Zuckerberg on Facebook, Millennials, and predictions for 2030 (2019)

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Post by 9rx »

pirates wrote: post #50
misiti3780 wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, he is *as* well known as those people. You think more people know who Ed Sheeran than Zuckerberg?

100%. I think people are way more likely to know the name of one of their favorite artists versus the owner of an online platform, no matter what that platform is.

To be fair, knowing someone's name is only one property of many when it comes to knowing them. It is technically possible — although perhaps unlikely — for someone to be more well-known than another even without having a recognizable name.

Zuckerberg probably is more well-known than Ed Sheeran. "Ed Sheeran", the name, may be more familiar, but what do typical people really know about the details of his life? Zuckerberg, on the other hand, had a movie made about him. At least everyone knows about Taylor Swift's dating life, if we want to compare to music celebrities.

Still, imagine Prince William or Prince Harry have to be most well-known. They've been chronicled since birth. Especially when you look past an Americentric view and turn to the world stage.

Re: Thiel and Zuckerberg on Facebook, Millennials, and predictions for 2030 (2019)

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Post by Aurornis »

DrewADesign wrote: post #10

** maybe edit of un-shame: ... is it? * edit of shame: it's satire. Confirmation bias is a hell of a drug. > there is a certain sense in which Mark Zuckerberg has been cast as 'the spokesman' for the Millennial generation — as the single person who gives voice to the hopes and fears and the unique experiences of this generation, at least in the USA That is an absolutely bananas read of Zuck's place in American cultur…

> That is an absolutely bananas read of Zuck's place in American culture.

It’s flattery. Consider the audience for the emails. These were not intended for the public.

Re: Thiel and Zuckerberg on Facebook, Millennials, and predictions for 2030 (2019)

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Post by HardCodedBias »

HardCodedBias wrote: post #39

"One example of such an "iron grip" from my colleague Eric Weinstein: Of the 67 top research universities in the US, 62 have Baby Boomer presidents (three are Silent Generation and only two are Generation X). Today, the median age of these 67 university presidents is 65 years-old... And this is very different from the recent past. Only thirty years ago, in 1990, the median age of these same university presidents was…

Update:

It looks like there has been some turnover at the universities since the quote from Eric Weinstein. I quick survey (could be incorrect!) says it is now more around 63.

That's still high but not as high as what Eric Weinstein was quoting.

Would be a great time series.

Re: Thiel and Zuckerberg on Facebook, Millennials, and predictions for 2030 (2019)

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Post by ben_w »

GoatInGrey wrote: post #66
9rx wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I’m hard pressed to find another person that is from the millennial generation that has been a persistent “public figure” as long and persistently than Zuck. Prince William and Prince Harry have him beat on that front, surely? They've been persistent public figures since birth. And if we limit it to modern times, Taylor Swift has got to be way more well known. Even my young kids know who Taylor Swift is. They have…

Remind me which prince it was that moved to the US and is cut off from the royal family? Was that William?

Harry left by choice and might be reconciling, Andrew was pushed because everyone hates him, William is the one who is next in line to be king.

Re: Thiel and Zuckerberg on Facebook, Millennials, and predictions for 2030 (2019)

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Post by hereme888 »

Reminder to millennials:

Socialism in real life = Biggest Government, Biggest Tech monopoly, forced uniformity, no self-agency, no authenticity for anyone who slightly disagrees with any aspect of the agenda, etc.

Source: I fled Venezuela because I lived in it.

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