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IP blocking the UK is not enough to comply with the Online Safety Act
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Re: IP blocking the UK is not enough to comply with the Online Safety Act
#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
Seems reasonable. If I committed what is considered a crime on American soil, I wouldn't expect to be able to enter the US without arrest.
Don't most crimes still require mens rea? Or is that only a US thing?
I'm not sure, but it wouldn't apply in the case we are discussing or I assume most businesses operating globally.
Re: IP blocking the UK is not enough to comply with the Online Safety Act
#73I don't really understand the concern. The UK objects to suicide forums and American operators of suicide forums are protected by the First Amendment of extradition to the UK. So if you want to operate a suicide forum from America, just don't travel to the UK and you're okay.
> just don't travel to the UK and you're okay. Pretty much avoid entering Britain or its dependencies or you'll be nabbed on a Commonwealth Warrant and extradited to England.
Yes the US does this shit all the time. Suck it up.
Re: IP blocking the UK is not enough to comply with the Online Safety Act
#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
The combative stance that he's taking really doesn't do him any favors in resolving the issue. Lawyer: "I've confirmed that at least one UK IP address is blocked." Regulators: "We've confirmed that at least one UK IP address is not blocked." In what world is the correct response "Dear regulators, you're incompetent. Pound sand." instead of "Can you share the IP address you used so my client can address this in their…
> In what world is the correct response "Dear regulators, you're incompetent. Pound sand." instead of "Can you share the IP address you used so my client can address this in their geoblock?" That would imply that the client actually would like to be contacted every time Ofcom found a leak in the geoblock. Not a good idea imho.
It sounds like they would welcome that, e.g. in the update to the post
>They’re definitely not treating it like a public safety matter, where they know how to reach us and know that I generally respond within the hour.
Re: IP blocking the UK is not enough to comply with the Online Safety Act
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Idk man look around america rn. People in my neighborhood are getting dragged into unmarked vans off the street
Re: IP blocking the UK is not enough to comply with the Online Safety Act
#76Re: IP blocking the UK is not enough to comply with the Online Safety Act
#77Don’t give a f*ck about the UKs laws. Don’t like it, the UK should block ME.
Re: IP blocking the UK is not enough to comply with the Online Safety Act
#78> They’re definitely not treating it like a public safety matter, where they know how to reach us and know that I generally respond within the hour. It's been exceedingly obvious but it's nice to know that Ofcom never thought that anyone would bother to fight back. This is clearly not about public safety but about controlling American corporations. Parliamentary forces seem to be directly suborning this corruption.
> This is clearly not about public safety but about
To me, this looks like the culmination of many years of ad hoc censorship breeding cadre of favored censors. They've all grown into a system of expectations where they can just finger frustrating bits of counter-narrative and have it disappeared.
The Powers That Be don't care to hear pesky details about jurisdiction. As such, there is no one around with the temerity to point out the inherent absurdities. So they pursue "offenders" despite the obvious futility, because not doing so means explaining difficult things to people that will not listen.
As I recently wrote[1], there is no metaphysical certitude that Ofcom and its intentions will be forever futile: all that is necessary is for the political vectors to align optimally (as they inevitably will,) and the LEOs of the US would be happy to oblige.
Re: IP blocking the UK is not enough to comply with the Online Safety Act
#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
Seems reasonable. If I committed what is considered a crime on American soil, I wouldn't expect to be able to enter the US without arrest.
Don't most crimes still require mens rea? Or is that only a US thing?
US doesn't care about mens rea for certain crimes involving speech anyway.
Anti-blasphemy laws, which is what these laws are, don't care about that either.
Re: IP blocking the UK is not enough to comply with the Online Safety Act
#80Isn’t compliance just as easy as asking where the visitor is from (or more specifically if they are from or in the UK), perhaps even just once per IP they visit the site from? Yes, they may lie, but that’s their problem not the site operator’s.