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Tesla's German car sales more than halve in October as wider EV sales jump

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Re: Tesla's German car sales more than halve in October as wider EV sales jump

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Post by electric_mayhem »

moosedman wrote: post #2

I don’t understand how the Tesla fanboys don’t realize how badly he’s torched his consumer base with his politics…

I was all in on Tesla in 2019. Solar, powerwalls, model 3.

Traded the car in a couple months ago. It was ok, as a car, but I hated what it had become synonymous with so it was worth the financial hit to give up a paid off car. Turns out the new Mach-e which replaced it is better in every way.

Might be some fanboys left, but a bunch of folks who might have fallen into that category in the past have been driven away by Musk’s unconscionable activities.

Re: Tesla's German car sales more than halve in October as wider EV sales jump

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Post by iagooar »

ceejayoz wrote: post #6
iagooar wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Anyone asking this question at this point in time is not asking in good faith.

I find it amusing how few people can actually answer this question. The many downvotes are a testimony to this.

Re: Tesla's German car sales more than halve in October as wider EV sales jump

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Post by [deleted] »

chollida1 wrote: post #64
fundatus wrote: post #47

Interesting, not only is Tesla 50% down YTD, but it seems like BYD almost caught up with them: 15,595 (Tesla) vs. 15,171 (BYD)

> Interesting, not only is Tesla 50% down YTD, TSLA is not down 50% YTD. Its up this year so far. Can you show the math that shows it down 50% YTD?

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Re: Tesla's German car sales more than halve in October as wider EV sales jump

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Post by mk89 »

chollida1 wrote: post #64
fundatus wrote: post #47

Interesting, not only is Tesla 50% down YTD, but it seems like BYD almost caught up with them: 15,595 (Tesla) vs. 15,171 (BYD)

> Interesting, not only is Tesla 50% down YTD, TSLA is not down 50% YTD. Its up this year so far. Can you show the math that shows it down 50% YTD?

It's literally written in the article:

> The number of Teslas sold in the January-October period dropped 50.4% to 15,595 units, compared with the same period last year.

YoY is -50%.

Re: Tesla's German car sales more than halve in October as wider EV sales jump

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Post by bydo »

schiffern wrote: post #62
TheAlchemist wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not only politics, although it certainly didn't help. Tesla did not release new cars, except for Cybertruck, for how long ? 5 years ? 10 years ? Their lineup was great initially, and there was 0 competition. Now there is a lot of competition and their lineup did not change at all. Their car business is dying. That's why they try to be an AI & Robotics company. Edit: Here is a good link to follow the sales data -…

>Tesla did not release new cars, except for Cybertruck, for how long ? 5 years ? 10 years ? As stated earlier, this is extremely bad strategy advice. Tesla is battery-limited, not demand-limited (delivery wave concern trolling from OP's headline aside). Adding models would only add complexity without meaningfully increasing revenue. It helps to know basic fundamental facts about the company before commenting. >Now th…

Why weren't they "battery limited" when they were making more cars?

Re: Tesla's German car sales more than halve in October as wider EV sales jump

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Post by moosedman »

mattmaroon wrote: post #29
moosedman wrote: post #2

I don’t understand how the Tesla fanboys don’t realize how badly he’s torched his consumer base with his politics…

They understand that he has, they think it’ll blow over.

It won't

Re: Tesla's German car sales more than halve in October as wider EV sales jump

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Post by yongjik »

themafia wrote: post #27
moosedman wrote: post #2

I don’t understand how the Tesla fanboys don’t realize how badly he’s torched his consumer base with his politics…

I don't understand why people think only left wing voters would buy a Tesla. If you think that's true then people aren't buying a quality vehicle they're buying an ideological badge. If you don't think that's true then people aren't buying them because they're not quality vehicles.

I think you're looking at it from the wrong end.

You're right that most people don't want to buy an ideological badge. They want a quality vehicle. The problem is that Musk turned Tesla into an ideological badge.

Off the top of your head, can you think of a single political remark made by the owners of Audi, Toyota, or Hyundai?

Re: Tesla's German car sales more than halve in October as wider EV sales jump

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Post by Permit »

schiffern wrote: post #52
mjamesaustin wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please explain how a demand limited company is seeing dramatic reductions in its annual sales? They used to be demand-limited. Not today.

False premise. The company isn't demand limited, despite the (conspicuously implied and never actually stated) conclusion the headline desperately wanted you to reach. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45827800 I really wish people had any media literacy left. This brand of lying without lying is extremely common in modern media, and also extremely easy to spot once you know what to look for.

Can you (instead of pontificating about media literacy) share evidence that Tesla is currently battery-limited?

Re: Tesla's German car sales more than halve in October as wider EV sales jump

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Post by pimeys »

rstupek wrote: post #44
pimeys wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are all over Berlin as rentals, which you can rent from your phone, and pay per kilometer. People can test drive them easily, and they are not super nice cars. We much prefer the Audis, Toyotas, and Volkswagens that are also in the pool.

From US sales, Audi can't give away their electric cars. Is it any different in Berlin or are you referring to gas/diesel Audis?

Gas/diesel mostly.
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