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Building a 2.5kWh battery from disposable vapes to power my workshop [video]

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Re: Building a 2.5kWh battery from disposable vapes to power my workshop [video]

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Post by pcdoodle »

hrimfaxi wrote: post #62
Fwirt wrote: post #46

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See my other reply, when people count energy costs they fail to take into account the existing sunk cost of producing said resources, and the energy from having to build out new infrastructure to create these “more efficient” datacenters. It’s like when people replace their fridge with a “more efficient” one and wipe out any energy savings with the cost of the new fridge. The difference in energy use will not pay for…

The only energy cost that matters is to the operator. Old hardware costs more to run so why would I run it? That there was energy used to produce the device and the replacement is literally not a factor in the calculation.

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Re: Building a 2.5kWh battery from disposable vapes to power my workshop [video]

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Post by PeaceTed »

Loocid wrote: post #57
huijzer wrote: post #48

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Well luckily according to Bill Gates the climate is not really an issue anymore [1]: > There’s a doomsday view of climate change that goes like this: > In a few decades, cataclysmic climate change will decimate civilization. The evidence is all around us—just look at all the heat waves and storms caused by rising global temperatures. Nothing matters more than limiting the rise in temperature. > Fortunately for all of…

There is a huge amount of space between "not really an issue" and "it will not lead to humanity’s demise".

Like how folks cherry picks reports on health by focusing on fatalities rather than incidents.

It is like how you can have a car crash much safer nowadays than ever before, doesn't make car crashes fine or good.

Re: Building a 2.5kWh battery from disposable vapes to power my workshop [video]

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Post by PeaceTed »

acdha wrote: post #51
squigz wrote: post #50

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Isn't a lot of e-waste recyclable?

In some cases but the economics need to be improved. Companies don’t have to pay for the externalities so it’s often cheaper to build new things instead of recycling, but if that shifted we’d see a lot more capacity arise.

Yep, this is one of those things where it is technically possible but economically not yet.

There is a reason a lot of this stuff gets handled in the worst way possible, it is the only economics that work so far.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4gvq1rd0geo

Re: Building a 2.5kWh battery from disposable vapes to power my workshop [video]

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Post by PeaceTed »

jonesjohnson wrote: post #2

The thought that disposable vapes are still not forbidden in my country (EU) is making me sick.

They are banned here in Australia, unfortunately it has created a huge black market for these things.

Almost every neighborhood now has a cigarette store that also sells gifts and US chocolates that are basically just fronts for this stuff. Black market vapes and cigarettes. Even the police in many parts here don't really enforce this stuff.

What I find even crazier than the batteries being disposed is that some of these have some decent processor tech in them. Like this one that has a 48Mhz ARM processor in. https://ripitapart.com/category/disposable-vape-hacks/

Re: Building a 2.5kWh battery from disposable vapes to power my workshop [video]

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Post by acdha »

PeaceTed wrote: post #73
acdha wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In some cases but the economics need to be improved. Companies don’t have to pay for the externalities so it’s often cheaper to build new things instead of recycling, but if that shifted we’d see a lot more capacity arise.

Yep, this is one of those things where it is technically possible but economically not yet. There is a reason a lot of this stuff gets handled in the worst way possible, it is the only economics that work so far. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4gvq1rd0geo

I don’t think we’ve really figured out how to handle international shipping being so cheap. If there were mountains of nominally-recyclable stuff building up in Hoboken, I think we’d have some kind of tax or regulatory fix because it’s harder to ignore a problem which is that easy to document. When it’s being sent through four levels of subcontractor on the other side of an ocean, people can just choose not to see problems which don’t obviously affect their kids but whose fixes would raise prices.

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Post by Dylan16807 »

wildzzz wrote: post #67
killingtime74 wrote: post #15

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Doesn't matter. If you try any of these techniques your insurer will still void your home insurance if your house catches fire.

"Hello, State Farm? Yes, I'd like to put in a claim for my home insurance. My homemade electrical bomb exploded and my house- hello? Hello?!"

No, the "doesn't matter" issue is that they'll try to deny you when something else starts a fire.

Re: Building a 2.5kWh battery from disposable vapes to power my workshop [video]

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Post by xarope »

crmd wrote: post #28

After all networked smartphones and computers were placed under control of the regime, resistance hackers relied on microcontrollers harvested from ordinary household devices like smart lamps and vape pens to slowly rebuild the covert but resilient mesh internetwork that became known as FreeNet.

Someone write a novel please. Not sure who will be more appropriate: Stross (more fun?), Stephenson (more of a slog through the first 600 pages, then an abrupt 180 and frenetic action in the last 100 with newly introduced, yet game-changing characters?).
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