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ICE and CBP agents are scanning faces on the street to verify citizenship

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Re: ICE and CBP agents are scanning faces on the street to verify citizenship

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Post by boston_clone »

All, I recommend you familiarize yourself with relevant state laws regarding your protections when assisting folks that are in immediate danger, e.g.: https://oregon.public.law/statutes/ors_161.200

I'm not a lawyer. So, if you have counsel on retainer and can stomach the bill, get clarity there first. But know that many states have such protections on the books.

The veil of immunity for DHS agents may soon be pierced. Apathy and ignorance are no longer acceptable for this situation.

Re: ICE and CBP agents are scanning faces on the street to verify citizenship

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Post by qingcharles »

pavel_lishin wrote: post #21
oceansky wrote: post #2

I wonder who is storing this data, I would bet Palantir. Possibly Oracle too.

Very likely an array of hackers, soon.

I assume the agents are using their own phones. One of their phones is going to be left in a bar and end up on eBay at some point and then the APK can be extracted at least.

Re: ICE and CBP agents are scanning faces on the street to verify citizenship

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Post by mothballed »

_yb2s wrote: post #55

Don’t fall for the lie that this is at all about illegal immigration- that is just an excuse for what has become state sponsored KKK style racial terrorism operating completely outside the law. Videos all over the Internet show them violently attacking and terrorizing hispanic looking people with no concern for if they are citizens or not. At the Wilder raid in Idaho they were shooting children with rubber bullets, a…

Always has been.

Biden's CBP goons stripped me naked, imprisoned me, ran up an ER bill for which I'm still being chased for by debt collectors, and tranported me by prisoner van all over the state, while they were enforcing Biden's (and now continue with Trump) insane war on drugs. I did not have drugs, I am not involved with drugs.

Of course nothing was found, and the allegation was hearsay by an HSI detective that some unnamed dog alerted to an unnamed officer, neither of which I have any idea what they were even referencing.

Re: ICE and CBP agents are scanning faces on the street to verify citizenship

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Post by burkaman »

downrightmike wrote: post #46
fabian2k wrote: post #24

The absolutely outrageous thing is that apparently they are instructed to ignore all other evidence of citizenship if that app says someone is not a citizen. So even if you have your birth certificate ready, doesn't matter. This is completely lawless. From the article: > He also said “ICE officials have told us that an apparent biometric match by Mobile Fortify is a ‘definitive’ determination of a person’s status and…

People can look identical, that's the reason we started using finger prints. Faces are not unique.

Also, this app uses photos from a combination of government databases, but there are millions of citizens without photo ID who won't show up in any of them.

Re: ICE and CBP agents are scanning faces on the street to verify citizenship

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Post by gs17 »

pavel_lishin wrote: post #20
kelseyfrog wrote: post #16

They can be trivially defeated with a 6 dollar product[1]. 1. https://www.amazon.com/Custom-Personalized-Print-Bandana-Reu...

Do... do you think ICE agents would come up to you and just scan the mask you clearly have pulled over your head?

Worse, scanning the mask would guarantee no match to a citizen's face.

Re: ICE and CBP agents are scanning faces on the street to verify citizenship

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Post by buellerbueller »

mothballed wrote: post #75
_yb2s wrote: post #55

Don’t fall for the lie that this is at all about illegal immigration- that is just an excuse for what has become state sponsored KKK style racial terrorism operating completely outside the law. Videos all over the Internet show them violently attacking and terrorizing hispanic looking people with no concern for if they are citizens or not. At the Wilder raid in Idaho they were shooting children with rubber bullets, a…

Always has been. Biden's CBP goons stripped me naked, imprisoned me, ran up an ER bill for which I'm still being chased for by debt collectors, and tranported me by prisoner van all over the state, while they were enforcing Biden's (and now continue with Trump) insane war on drugs. I did not have drugs, I am not involved with drugs. Of course nothing was found, and the allegation was hearsay by an HSI detective that…

Scale matters. Once is a bad actor; this is a bad executive branch, with seriously bad supporting turns by the highest court and congress.

Re: ICE and CBP agents are scanning faces on the street to verify citizenship

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Post by 0xy »

_yb2s wrote: post #55

Don’t fall for the lie that this is at all about illegal immigration- that is just an excuse for what has become state sponsored KKK style racial terrorism operating completely outside the law. Videos all over the Internet show them violently attacking and terrorizing hispanic looking people with no concern for if they are citizens or not. At the Wilder raid in Idaho they were shooting children with rubber bullets, a…

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Re: ICE and CBP agents are scanning faces on the street to verify citizenship

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Post by gorbachev »

fabian2k wrote: post #24

The absolutely outrageous thing is that apparently they are instructed to ignore all other evidence of citizenship if that app says someone is not a citizen. So even if you have your birth certificate ready, doesn't matter. This is completely lawless. From the article: > He also said “ICE officials have told us that an apparent biometric match by Mobile Fortify is a ‘definitive’ determination of a person’s status and…

> This is completely lawless.

They don't give a **.

https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/the-rule-of-law-i...

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