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YouTube Just Ate TV. It's Only Getting Started

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Re: YouTube Just Ate TV. It's Only Getting Started

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Post by benbristow »

giobox wrote: post #64
benbristow wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

SmartTube on Android TV. Brilliant, makes YouTube usable, Sponsorblock baked in.

Sponsor block is much less useful now Premium subscriptions have the "skip commonly skipped section" feature, which is always the sponsored content. With the addition of this, you can avoid ads and sponsors well enough now on Premium for me. I was pleasantly surprised YouTube came out with a first party tool to skip sponcon. > https://dataconomy.com/2025/07/30/youtubes-ai-powered-jump-a...

I can imagine creators aren't going to be happy about that. Can't see it lasting long.

Re: YouTube Just Ate TV. It's Only Getting Started

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Post by giobox »

benbristow wrote: post #71
giobox wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sponsor block is much less useful now Premium subscriptions have the "skip commonly skipped section" feature, which is always the sponsored content. With the addition of this, you can avoid ads and sponsors well enough now on Premium for me. I was pleasantly surprised YouTube came out with a first party tool to skip sponcon. > https://dataconomy.com/2025/07/30/youtubes-ai-powered-jump-a...

I can imagine creators aren't going to be happy about that. Can't see it lasting long.

Perhaps, but its been a while now and AFAIK has been rolled out to all of YouTube's apps, even the integrated TV ones.

Re: YouTube Just Ate TV. It's Only Getting Started

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Post by MagnumOpus »

CaptainOfCoit wrote: post #55
benbristow wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Grooveshark, that's a name I've not heard in a while... But even Spotify are putting the price up this year. I bet if something like that happened, it'd quickly soar to $0.2 an episode in the next year, then slowly creep up more and more.

> I bet if something like that happened, it'd quickly soar to $0.2 an episode in the next year, then slowly creep up more and more Yeah probably, until they find the point where more people leave because it's too expensive than they'll earn by raising prices, then they'll oscillate or find a new direction. Isn't that how capitalism is supposed to work?

Capitalism is supposed to have perfectly competitive goods to be efficient. IP protection - especially the obscene century-long protection of copyrights - renders capitalist competition into monopolistic competition, which no longer maximises consumer surpluses. Hence mandatory licencing can increase benefits for society - and in the past such models worked - e.g. for radio. Today, the only reason content conglomerates get away with it is that they can pay of sufficiently many legislators.

Re: YouTube Just Ate TV. It's Only Getting Started

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Post by cft »

lagniappe wrote: post #31
cft wrote: post #20

We need a politically uncensored version (within the law) of YouTube. Things like Rumble do not work well, they are not technically polished. It's a good side project for X.

Rumble works great. What issues are you having?

Tried to upload a large video, "processing" failed after 1 hour. Repeated three times and did not succeed in the end.

Re: YouTube Just Ate TV. It's Only Getting Started

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Post by krisoft »

shinycode wrote: post #9
froobius wrote: post #4

YouTube has so much questionable content on it that gets millions of views... Parents who've found ways to monetize their kids. Dangerous / unpleasant pranks being pulled on members the public. Conspiracy theories. Fake game shows where the winners being given money are actually friends of the host. Or where the host pretends contestants are doing something dangerous, but actually it's CGI, (misleading young viewers…

Maybe a business/layer would be needed (if that doesn’t exist yet) that pick « best quality » content and provide a curated list as a channel ? YouTube is just the whole catalog. I would definitely like that, channels and curated content from YouTube because I lost so much time finding great content sometimes that it’s sad.

The fundamental way how youtube content is organised is channels. You find a few channels you like, you watch their back catalogue and you subscribe to their new content.

And it is indeed a business layer too. The people making the channel gets paid for their trouble per views. Each channel is a little brand with their own idea of what kind of content they will give to the viewers and in what shape and what kind of quality.

I’m sure what you describe is different from this in some way, but it is weird reading that you wish youtube had channels without mentioning that it already has them.

> because I lost so much time finding great content sometimes that it’s sad.

Idk if you are pickier than me, or have even more niche tastes than I do, because in my experience youtube is full of great content.

Re: YouTube Just Ate TV. It's Only Getting Started

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Post by cft »

pstuart wrote: post #69
cft wrote: post #20

We need a politically uncensored version (within the law) of YouTube. Things like Rumble do not work well, they are not technically polished. It's a good side project for X.

> We need a politically uncensored version (within the law) of YouTube What does that mean "politically uncensored within the law"?

Means for example, that this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnR4Xw74_is had only 70% of the algorithmic views (YouTube "suggestions" or "related content").

They did not ban it outright, so you cannot complain or rigorously prove their bias, but they algorithmically suppress dissenting content.

Re: YouTube Just Ate TV. It's Only Getting Started

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Post by hectdev »

pengaru wrote: post #43
hectdev wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a tool like anything else. I learn SO MUCH from Youtube. Watching someone DIY something where they show all the steps, makes it so accessible. I then learn from them and create some really intricate things from different domains without any formal training. I'm talking car repairs, electrical engineering, woodworking, metal work, gardening, 3d printing. The list goes on and on.

It's true... but such an awful double edged sword. I have quite a bit of experience as an auto mechanic, and love using youtube to find footage of something I'm considering doing or some item I'm considering buying. Just the effort+time savings alone is a game changer. Previously I would download FSMs for something I was considering acquiring to see what it's really like to work on / maintain / something of the inter…

I could see that. Some times I'll also use it to gain consensus from a few different creators. The best ones will show when they fail so its a learning experience for everyone.

Re: YouTube Just Ate TV. It's Only Getting Started

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Post by cantor_S_drug »

magicalhippo wrote: post #56
cantor_S_drug wrote: post #38

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I don't understand, why isn't Youtube social yet. By that I mean why can't I subscribe to other recommendations by creator of the channel Posy or Martijn Doolaard or Sisyphus 55.

In the web version, at the bottom of the channel page, there's a list of which subscribers that creator subscribes to, no? At least that's how I interpreted that section.

I mean these creators can create their personal recommendation streams (of other videos they liked) and some weighted combination of those items could enter my recommendations. This feature is present in Soundcloud.

Re: YouTube Just Ate TV. It's Only Getting Started

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Post by magicalhippo »

cantor_S_drug wrote: post #78
magicalhippo wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the web version, at the bottom of the channel page, there's a list of which subscribers that creator subscribes to, no? At least that's how I interpreted that section.

I mean these creators can create their personal recommendation streams (of other videos they liked) and some weighted combination of those items could enter my recommendations. This feature is present in Soundcloud.

That does sound like it could be interesting, however it also sounds like it could be horrible. Just because I subscribe to a creator doesn't always mean I align with their views on everything, so could fill my feed with junk.

I guess it would have to be another setting along with the subscription flag.

Re: YouTube Just Ate TV. It's Only Getting Started

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Post by CaptainOfCoit »

benbristow wrote: post #65
CaptainOfCoit wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I bet if something like that happened, it'd quickly soar to $0.2 an episode in the next year, then slowly creep up more and more Yeah probably, until they find the point where more people leave because it's too expensive than they'll earn by raising prices, then they'll oscillate or find a new direction. Isn't that how capitalism is supposed to work?

... so we end up in the same predicament we are now. Maybe the model doesn't work? And no, I'm not a communist.

I think it's broken, yeah. I think the whole "art for money" thing doesn't make sense in general and something else has to be figured out. Artists should be able to survive without depending on things like "perfectly competitive goods" or whatever.
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