How AI gave me my voice back – an artist's review of Suno Studio • Hacker News Board

Re: How AI gave me my voice back – an artist's review of Suno Studio

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Post by aeon_ai » Fri, Oct 31, 2025, 7:22 PM UTC

spencerflem wrote: post #56

aeon_ai wrote: post #54

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Who knew that nuance was the enemy of rational thought.

It’s the enemy of successful organization. I have thoughts on when AI is appropriate, but the conversations I want to be having is ‘how do we oppose AI’ and not ‘why is my specific definition of what is Ok better than your very similar one’. Also, once Any AI is allowed, each step beyond that will be barely worth fighting for because it’s only just beyond acceptability.

Turning conversations away from nuance and towards black/white thinking is precisely why we're in an increasingly polarized society.

You may see it as a means towards the collective action you'd prefer, but your argument is that sheep are easier to herd towards a goal you've already determined is "right" without inviting critical thought or analysis when you don't allow for nuance.

Even if true, I disagree with both your assertion that "organizing against AI" is the right path forward, and the approach to engaging in discourse.

Re: How AI gave me my voice back – an artist's review of Suno Studio

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Post by tr1ll10nb1ll » Fri, Oct 31, 2025, 7:24 PM UTC

have_faith wrote: post #21

tr1ll10nb1ll wrote: post #17

Recently talked to the founder of wavtool (acquihired by Suno which probably accelerated their work on Studio) and from my understanding, their overarching goal is to reduce to the time from concept to actual production. faster workflows, in other words. I produce music as well on the side and I can assure you things like making beatpacks, finding the exact sound are non-trivial at times and a unified interface that…

FYI your "Try Live Demo" link 404's.

my bad, try out at wav0.app/daw

Re: How AI gave me my voice back – an artist's review of Suno Studio

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Post by rhetocj23 » Fri, Oct 31, 2025, 7:26 PM UTC

viccis wrote: post #55

My honest review, as a musician who has spent many years of my life making music and both giving and receiving blunt critique: Stunningly mediocre. Worthy of a Pitchfork 1/10. If your choice truly is between having AI make "art" that you pass off as your own vs not doing so, then please remember that, as a wise man once said, an artist understands the silence that serves as the foundation of creativity. I can't see h…

Well said man. Not surprising to hear this take from someone whos been involved in music production for many years.

I just listened to it myself and WTF - its awful. There is a reason why quality of music has diminished sharply since the Record Labels lost control.

Re: How AI gave me my voice back – an artist's review of Suno Studio

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Post by bebb » Fri, Oct 31, 2025, 7:35 PM UTC

viccis wrote: post #55

My honest review, as a musician who has spent many years of my life making music and both giving and receiving blunt critique: Stunningly mediocre. Worthy of a Pitchfork 1/10. If your choice truly is between having AI make "art" that you pass off as your own vs not doing so, then please remember that, as a wise man once said, an artist understands the silence that serves as the foundation of creativity. I can't see h…

I've not used Suno Studio but I did put some of my own piano improv recordings into Suno and asked it to apply different styles. Fascinating results, hearing my work translated into disco, funk, acid jazz, marching brass band, film scores, 8-bit chiptunes, cor anglais solos, and more. It's given me a deeper appreciation for the broader musical landscape and has somewhat helped me out of a creative rut.

That said, I don't like the idea of generating entire songs and/or lyrics from scratch with AI. That's a step too far, as it diminishes creativity rather than supplements it. So I have mixed feelings overall about products like Suno.

Re: How AI gave me my voice back – an artist's review of Suno Studio

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Post by bebb » Fri, Oct 31, 2025, 7:39 PM UTC

standardly wrote: post #24

AI slop, yadda yadda, I get it... But I just want to say, as a former failed bedroom producer who just doesn't have the time (and skill) to make the kind of music I want... I had a BLAST using Suno. I was able to "remaster" some of my old tracks, add in new sections, etc, and isolate/download/edit the stems. I understand it's not fully my creative output... but hearing one of my old, shitty, ableton live projects rem…

I did the same to some old tracks, feeding them into Suno with different style requests, and it was fascinating. It didn't quite hit the mark on a whole-song scale but I enjoyed the exploration of ideas and genres.

If I could compare Suno to anything it'd be like having a studio full of rather disobedient and unpredictable session musicians available 24/7.

Even that's not quite what one gets as if you listen closely enough it doesn't really sound like a recording. Like the reverb is all over the place and there are certain other artefacts that are hard to describe but gratingly noticeable once you've spotted them.

Re: How AI gave me my voice back – an artist's review of Suno Studio

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Post by NewsaHackO » Fri, Oct 31, 2025, 7:43 PM UTC

bigyabai wrote: post #70

NewsaHackO wrote: post #9

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Most modern music us generic slop, especially pop music. If he likes making it and others like listening to it, isn't that the point of a hobby?

Most != all. Modern music also gave us some of the most forward-thinking sounds yet to reach the mainstream. When people get comfortable listening to slop, making something genuine or transgressive becomes attractive again. I think there's merit in worrying that AI-based music will cause artists to lose touch with the creative process, because I agree; a lot of modern music is pointless slop. Lowering the barrier to…

But different people have different parts of the creative process that they find appealing. For instance, in this blog, he said he had multiple stems but felt as though AI helped him flesh them out. By using AI assistance, he was able to create the music he always wanted to create, and therefore have fun with his hobby. If people like listening to it, then there is an added benefit. The people who think that things other than AI are more conducive to their creative process are still allowed to use them, so AI assisted music doesn't really change anything for them. The only people I can think of who face negative side effects from AI are those attempting to commercialize or sell their music.

Re: How AI gave me my voice back – an artist's review of Suno Studio

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Post by cactusplant7374 » Fri, Oct 31, 2025, 8:06 PM UTC

ares623 wrote: post #69

cactusplant7374 wrote: post #58

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I think this technology is a net gain for the elderly. It's so easy to be creative and have great results.

I mean sure, if you ignore all the negative externalities then it is a net gain for everyone.

That doesn't address my comment on the elderly.

Re: How AI gave me my voice back – an artist's review of Suno Studio

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Post by HDThoreaun » Fri, Oct 31, 2025, 8:27 PM UTC

ares623 wrote: post #69

cactusplant7374 wrote: post #58

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I think this technology is a net gain for the elderly. It's so easy to be creative and have great results.

I mean sure, if you ignore all the negative externalities then it is a net gain for everyone.

making music you dont like has negative externalities?

Re: How AI gave me my voice back – an artist's review of Suno Studio

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Post by nxpnsv » Fri, Oct 31, 2025, 8:29 PM UTC

standardly wrote: post #30

nxpnsv wrote: post #14

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Not AI, suno.

What is the difference between 1.) Sampling a real snare sound 2.) Suno generating a couple random snare hits for you to choose from ? There are ways to use it that aren't far-removed from how real producers work. It's different to say "Generate me top-40 Sounding pop song"... But Suno has more uses than that.

I don't oppose synthesis or samples. But arguably Suno songs typically goes way little beyond that. If you didn't chose the samples, didn't chose the words, didn't chose the voice, but vibed for a few mins what you did is not made a song, you heard a song. And the songs suck.

Re: How AI gave me my voice back – an artist's review of Suno Studio

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Post by nxpnsv » Fri, Oct 31, 2025, 8:32 PM UTC

aeon_ai wrote: post #19

nxpnsv wrote: post #14

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Not AI, suno.

One-shot generations? Multi-track stem generation? Use of Suno at all in the process of composition? Is slop a function defined by the tool or the users level of effort in using it?

That is an interesting point. I am not sure how to define Slop. I am 100% sure you could use Suno for something that doesn't feel horrible. I tried and failed bad. But maybe it is possible. Typically I just hear on the surface song like audio but without anything to make me care about the song at all.