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Walking through TSA scanners, I always get that unnerving feeling I will get pulled aside. 50% of the time they flag my cargo pants because of the zipper pockets - There is nothing in them but the scanner doesn't like them. Now we get the privilege of walking by AI security cameras placed in random locations, hoping they don't flag us. There's a ton of money to be made with this kind of global frisking, so lots of pr…

Speak up citizens!

Email the state congressman and tell them what you think.

Since (pretty much) nobody does this, if a few hundred people do it, they will sit up and take notice. It takes less people than you might think.

Since coordinating this with a bunch of strangers (I.e. the public) is difficult, the most effective way is to normalise speaking up in our culture. Of course normalising it will increase the incoming comm rate, which will slowly decrease the effectiveness but even post that state, it’s better than where we are, which is silent public apathy

Re: Armed police swarm student after AI mistakes bag of Doritos for a weapon

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Memories of Jean Charles de Menezes come to mind: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Jean_Charles_de_Men...

That was my first thought as well. A worry is police officers make mistakes which leads to anywhere from hapless people getting terrorized, harmed or killed. The bad thing about AI is it'll allow police to escape responsibility. Perhaps also where a human will realize it made a mistake they can admit it and everything is okay. But if AI says you had a gun, it won't walk that back. AI said he had a gun. But when we checked, he didn't have it anymore.

In the Menezes case the cops were playing a game of telephone that ended up with him being shot in the head.

Re: Armed police swarm student after AI mistakes bag of Doritos for a weapon

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I got pulled aside because I absentmindedly showed them my concealed carry permit, not my driver's license. I told them I was a consultant working for their local government and was going back to Austin. No harm no foul.

If the system used any kind of logic whatsoever a CCW permit would not only allow you to bypass airport security but also carry in the airport (Speaking as both a pilot and a permit holder) Would probably eliminate the need for the TSA security theater so that will probably never happen.

The point of the security theater is to assuage the 95th percentile scared-of-everything crowd, they're the same people who want no guns signs in public parks.

Re: Armed police swarm student after AI mistakes bag of Doritos for a weapon

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Ah, the coming age of Palantir's all seeing platform; and Peter Thiel becoming the shadow Emperor. Too bad non-deterministic ml systems are prone to errors that risk lives when applied wrongly to crucial parts of society. But in an authoritarian state, those will be hidden away anyway, so there's nothing to see here: move along folks. Yes, surveillance and authoritarianism go hand in hand, ask China. It's important t…

I might be missing something but I don' think this article isn't about palantir or any of their products

Re: Armed police swarm student after AI mistakes bag of Doritos for a weapon

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Stuff like this feels like some company has managed to monetize an open source object detection model like YOLO [1], creating something that could be cobbled together relatively easily, and then sold it as advance AI capabilities. (You'd hope they've have at least fine-tuned it / have a good training dataset.) We've got a model out there now that we've just seen has put someone's life at risk... Does anyone apart fro…

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