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This is wasting the time of accessibility engineers who are doing very important work. Please don't.
> This is wasting the time of accessibility engineers If only Mozilla felt the same about wasting people's time. We wouldn't be having this discussion.
Tor browser removing various Firefox AI features
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#72I file a ticket with Firefox whenever an unwanted dialog pops up covering content. If you tag these as being accessibility related they get bounced back and forth between a few people before getting closed and thus pour just a little bit of sand in the gears.
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#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hum... Pretty much so. Unless it's a real emergency or the contents don't make sense until you do something, every modal window is an accessibility problem.
So is the appearance of any modal window something that justifies filing tickets with Firefox? It doesn't sound like that's PaulHoule's motivation anyway — he knows that these tickets are not going to be fixed, just closed — the point is to "pour just a little bit of sand in the gears".
I generally approve of subversive actions which are naturally damaging if and exactly if the accusation they are based on is true.
That is, the logic is something like "well, either it gets fixed, in which case it's a victory for good, or they're hypocrites who don't really care, in which case 1. it wastes their time and 2. they deserve to have their time wasted."
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#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
I didn't read malice into the post, just using a tongue-in-cheek tone. My reading was "letting them know doing bad choices will not quitely be accepted". But I may ofcourse read something into it that wasn't meant.
It goes beyond tongue-in-cheek if he's actually filing tickets and forcing engineers to spend their time responding.
Choices have consequences, and user-hostile choices should have developer-hostile consequences.
Re: Tor browser removing various Firefox AI features
#75I file a ticket with Firefox whenever an unwanted dialog pops up covering content. If you tag these as being accessibility related they get bounced back and forth between a few people before getting closed and thus pour just a little bit of sand in the gears.
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#76Good! I do not want nor need AI in every single aspect of my life. I mean, I've seen AI hygiene products out there. How does that even work? Don't answer that ... I know it's a marketing scheme, akin to the "HD" craze of five to 10 years ago.
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#77As a long-time firefox user (since the very earliest days of phoenix), I have to say: focus on open standards and delivering a faster and more secure browser. Make runtimes like electron out of your engine. DO shit that matters. Forget pocket, AI, and all that other junk. That is not your mission!
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#78An AI sidebar doesn't bother me. But it should be an extension, not an inescapable part of the browser.
I'd love to be able to open up an arbitrary web page in this sidebar. It would be super valuable for research. They can obviously do it, since the AI sidebar also loads a web page, but the functionality is locked for some reason, and vertical splitting extensions are pure jank. I really wish Mozilla would focus on addressing some of the numerous user feature requests, rather than whatever the current trend is.
Re: Tor browser removing various Firefox AI features
#79I file a ticket with Firefox whenever an unwanted dialog pops up covering content. If you tag these as being accessibility related they get bounced back and forth between a few people before getting closed and thus pour just a little bit of sand in the gears.
This is a huge pet peeve of mine, and not even specifically in Firefox or even browsers. It's in applications and OS's as well. I don't know if it's actually increased recently, or I've become more sensitized, but it harkens back to the web 1.0 pop-up misery of yore..
Re: Tor browser removing various Firefox AI features
#80I file a ticket with Firefox whenever an unwanted dialog pops up covering content. If you tag these as being accessibility related they get bounced back and forth between a few people before getting closed and thus pour just a little bit of sand in the gears.
this would be admirable if it's done in earnest to try and increase accessibility, but you say explicitly it's done specifically to "pour sand in the gears". please don't