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Who owns Express VPN, Nord, Surfshark? VPN relationships explained (2024)

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Re: Who owns Express VPN, Nord, Surfshark? VPN relationships explained (2024)

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Is there any other real world usecases for VPN nowadays other than: 1. Getting access to geolocked data 2. Torrenting "Linux ISOs" ?

One others seem to have missed 3. ad blocking on your phone away from home. Almost all VPNs have a block ads / known malicious traffic function. This can be done with just a DNS but often mobile carriers will block using your own DNS.

Re: Who owns Express VPN, Nord, Surfshark? VPN relationships explained (2024)

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> I definitely want to know if they are involved with any tech I'm using so I can avoid it Are you going to stop using Linux because the NSA is a major code contributor? Huawei is too, and they were founded by a guy from the PLA.

this is not a helpful argument. this isn't about not using Israeli OSS software but services that feed data into the surveillance grid of quasi rogue state.

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Re: Who owns Express VPN, Nord, Surfshark? VPN relationships explained (2024)

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Are we allowed to discuss (edit: if it's not too political?) if Kape Technologies has any connections to Israeli security services, given the nature of VPNs and given the amount of data that can be trivially collected, and: "Being from Israel, Teddy Sagi had connections with the Israeli military intelligence sphere and was able to procure himself a real-life cyber spy [his co-founder] from the famed Unit 8200 (kinda…

I liked Express VPN

Re: Who owns Express VPN, Nord, Surfshark? VPN relationships explained (2024)

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OOC what's your current favored provider? AirVPN? Proton?

I tried Airvpn but the MacOS client is beyond trash. And the website just gives 2005 amateur PHP coder vibes. Not just the design. The session expiry is seems very long - I hadn't visited for a few days and I'm still logged in. I'd be surprised if it wasn't infinite.

For multiple reasons it's better and safer to avoid using official provider client in the first place, regardless of provider, and connect with a good wireguard/openvpn/whatever client.

Re: Who owns Express VPN, Nord, Surfshark? VPN relationships explained (2024)

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Yep. And I was on Proton for 3y, until the CEO were backing Trump and Vance on Reddit and other places. Their port forwarding was also painful as well, but it worked. Cancelled. PIA does the port forwarding nicely and stabily. No jank scripts to run every 60 seconds. Now evidently PIA is a bunch of scum capitalists. But in reality, who isn't? Mullvad? But they killed port forwarding for "abuse".

> the CEO were backing Trump and Vance on Reddit and other places Something happened, but THAT didn't. https://medium.com/@ovenplayer/does-proton-really-support-tr...

> Given Proton’s outstanding track record and reputation thus far as a free, open-source, crowdfunded organization, owned by a non-profit and based in Switzerland (a country known for its neutrality), this topic is worth a deep dive.

Either it was someone paid to write this, or if author really believes this, they are not someone I trust.

Maybe the organization is non-profit (which I do not believe is practically true), it does not explain them sharing so much with Tesonet.

Re: Who owns Express VPN, Nord, Surfshark? VPN relationships explained (2024)

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Yep. And I was on Proton for 3y, until the CEO were backing Trump and Vance on Reddit and other places. Their port forwarding was also painful as well, but it worked. Cancelled. PIA does the port forwarding nicely and stabily. No jank scripts to run every 60 seconds. Now evidently PIA is a bunch of scum capitalists. But in reality, who isn't? Mullvad? But they killed port forwarding for "abuse".

The Proton CEO is not "backing Trump and Vance." He wrote something positive about a narrow policy Trump supported that's favorable to little tech over big tech. That's it. It's certainly possible that someone you detest can still occasionally support a particular policy you think is good.

Particularly when dealing with someone like Trump, who has, on occasion, backed both sides of an issue, depending on the day of the week! ;P

Re: Who owns Express VPN, Nord, Surfshark? VPN relationships explained (2024)

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I tried Proton but their VPN wasnt as good as NordVPNs… But if Nord is sketchy, what is the recommended one?

Depends on what you mean by "good".

Fast/low latency is to some extent diagrammatically opposed to high quality privacy. The fastest route is always you to source. The more hops/mixers/proxies/things you add the worse the experience gets

Re: Who owns Express VPN, Nord, Surfshark? VPN relationships explained (2024)

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I have to admit that discovering that ProtonVPN was actually just owned by Proton Technologies feels underwhelming.

Idk what's the official status, but it's Tesonet. Some fake debunking in the comments of this thread that is factually almost correct: https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonVPN/comments/8ww4h2/protonvpn... EDIT: ProtonVPN app was "accidentally" signet by Tesonet. How do you think this could happen?

thanks, this reddit thread doesn't inspire confidence in proton's story :/ at all

Re: Who owns Express VPN, Nord, Surfshark? VPN relationships explained (2024)

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Is there any other real world usecases for VPN nowadays other than: 1. Getting access to geolocked data 2. Torrenting "Linux ISOs" ?

The original use for a VPN - getting access to private resources - is still very much in play.

I don't just mean being able to access some private web interface you have on a private server in your at home, I mean connecting a satellite office to the main corporate office.

But for all of these consumer marketed VPNs, I think your list has 90%+ covered...

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