What happened to all those 2nd Amendment conservatives who needed their guns to protect us from the governments jack booted thugs?
The president is white so they can’t see any threat here. If Obama had tried this there would already be a revolt.
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#72Yet another reason to dump Twitter, Meta, Tiktok and other social sites. People can always go mack to USENET and IRC if they want to make it hard to be tracked :)
They don't want you on there, they need your silence. Your posting about injustice gives them great fear. They don't want your unsolicited commentary on state of affairs. You are a friend only if you boost their propaganda. So yes, go hide away and say nothing and pretend the world is normal, you will eventually have to deal with it in the real world.
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#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
What’s the steelman argument for the US actually doing well?
Protecting us against Schrödinger's immigrant: Both stealing our jobs AND too lazy to do any work. /s
Willing to work for less than an American, but somehow doesn’t drive wages down for Americans.
Lives in American housing yet somehow doesn’t drive up the cost of housing.
Creates ethnic enclaves which mostly speak their own languages yet somehow assimilate into American culture.
The left has plenty of its own contradictory arguments.
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#74Yeah, that's some Gestapo level business... or since they don't like that word, Stasi. As in, there were loads of people in the DDR (East Germany, 1949-1989) whose job it was to read people's personal mail, along with the network of neighborhood snitches.
re: the extensive surveillance network of the stasi...
In case you missed it, check out the movie _The Lives of Others_.
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#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
Some other other people: "i can't tell the difference between rotten apples and fresh oranges. therefore all fruit is shit." But which one do you think is accurate? Here's an article to consider, where ICE broke into an apartment building without warrants to arrest citizens and children. Does this sound like Gestapo tactics or no?: https://chicago.suntimes.com/immigration/2025/10/01/massive-...
It doesn't matter what I think. The reality is most people who voted, voted for this or something like this. This will only change at the ballot box, assuming you believe in fair elections.
So what is your actual point? Is there a true reality in your world or is it just all political spin? Does ICE's violence against US citizens even exist in your worldview? Is ICE's violence against US citizens something that is objectively true in your eyes? Say something concrete.
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#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
E.g., https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33755016 from 2022. Only N-gram frequency analysis, no modern ML techniques needed. Probably time for somebody to revisit this topic with an actual model.
That's not even close to "reliable and definitive". I'll give you "suggestive". And it presumably has certain volume requirements.
What on Earth makes you think that the people who will be using this kind of tech will care how "reliable" or how "definitive" it is? False positives aren't a bug with ICE, they're a perk of the job!
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#78The US is going down the gutter, it's sad and pathetic.
going down? we are deep in cesspool
Re: ICE Wants to Build Out a 24/7 Social Media Surveillance Team
#79Yeah, that's some Gestapo level business... or since they don't like that word, Stasi. As in, there were loads of people in the DDR (East Germany, 1949-1989) whose job it was to read people's personal mail, along with the network of neighborhood snitches.
Reading public posts on a website is not the same as reading people’s private mail though. Not really an equivalent comparison IMO.
The distinction between public and private is obvious to the initiated, but probably not to everyone. e.g. https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/charlie-kirk-assassination...
With the right sorts of access given by companies seeking to avoid the ire of the administration, I'm pretty sure even private profiles could be considered to be public.
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#80It’s pretty clear that ICE is the seed of a paramilitary force.
Indeed. The timeline is probably going to play out like this: 2025: Get downvoted on HN for comparing Charlie Kirk to Horst Wessel 2026: Get upvoted for it 2027: Get banned for it 2028: No voting allowed, here or anywhere else
The question is when in this timeline will you get arrested or at least detained for questioning for it? We’re already at the point where you might get fired or deported for it.