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Largest Mass Resignation in US History as 100k Federal Workers Quit

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The American people will find out either way if it was wise or not.

They have to experience the pain to vote better. And even then, I am not terribly hopeful, based on the evidence and observations.

By “better” you mean “more consistent with what I want,” right? Because your average Trump voter voted for the guy who had Elon get on stage with a chainsaw.

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It’s a terrifying experiment in hollowing out the civil service. At some point a critical mass of Federal workers may be lost which brings the entire machinery of the Federal Government to a standstill. It’s also not clear how to recover from something like this.

I'm not terrified. Just to put some perspective on this, per Pew [1], the federal workforce excluding the postal service (which has actually shrunk as a semi-private employer) has grown by about 1% per year since 2000. As of 2024, it was at 2.4M people. The federal workforce is dramatically bigger than it was even a few years ago [2]. Moreover, the vast majority of federal workers don't have anything to do with the k…

> the federal workforce excluding the postal service (which has actually shrunk, as a semi-private employer) has grown by about 1% per year since 2000

That's less than it seems though, given that the US population has grown with over 0.7% per year for most of those years.

https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/usa/uni...

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These people mostly already and effectively stopped working... The people I know that took this offer were told to stop showing up for work back in March-ish time frame. I see nothing in the article to suggest a sudden wave of new people taking up this offer -- as far as I can tell, the only thing that's about to change from what this article says is that our unemployment numbers will start to reflect it if those fed…

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These people mostly already and effectively stopped working... The people I know that took this offer were told to stop showing up for work back in March-ish time frame. I see nothing in the article to suggest a sudden wave of new people taking up this offer -- as far as I can tell, the only thing that's about to change from what this article says is that our unemployment numbers will start to reflect it if those fed…

> These people mostly already and effectively stopped working... The people I know that took this offer were told to stop showing up for work back in March-ish time frame.

Well, yes. That's what the DRP was, they were put on administrative leave through 30 September. It's kind of hard to work when you're on admin leave. Are you surprised by the fact that this group of DRP folks are resigning on 30 Sept when that was the agreement they signed under the DRP? Did you expect something else?

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It’s a terrifying experiment in hollowing out the civil service. At some point a critical mass of Federal workers may be lost which brings the entire machinery of the Federal Government to a standstill. It’s also not clear how to recover from something like this.

That's the intention of this administration. Destroy any service that the government could provide until people can genuinely think the government is useless. Then the people currently in power and their cronies will come out of the woodwork "saving" the country with their private companies and interests. Competing with an empty shell of a government is the easiest way. As a side effect, if they're to lose the next e…

>>> That's the intention of this administration. Destroy any service that the government could provide until people can genuinely think the government is useless.

Not really sure ANY government service runs well. There are maybe one or two but as a whole government run anything never seems to be done well or at a decent cost. Just scan the comments about the massive overspending and poor service we already get as taxpayers.

Trying to get a properly run government program or service has been going on since the country was founded.

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The deferred retirement scheme is an incredibly ill-conceived way of shrinking the government. The way the incentive is structured it encourages the workers who are most able to find another job to leave. These are your best workers. The ones that will disproportionately stay are the least competitive in the job market. The other group of workers that will take it are those that were going to leave or retire anyway.…

That's the point, though.

Since Reagan, the Republican party's stance has always been that government can't do anything right, so we should get rid of as much of it as possible, and every time Republicans have had the power to do so, they've sabotaged various agencies, then pointed to the inevitable problems that arise as proof of their claim.

An example of this was decommissioning mail sorting machines during Trump's first term, resulting in mail delays.

If you get rid of the most competent government workers, then obviously, government services will function less effectively, which will serve to bolster claims that those services simply don't work and should be shuttered anyway.

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The real shame in all of this is the fact that buried deep within the 100k are workers who actually know a thing or two about how things actually work, have the experience and knowledge to get things done, have a pretty good idea how to improve the processes and policies, have chosen to do their assigned duties correctly, but have probably had limited success trying to change things.

So they're getting out because "it's time I guess. Not much else I can do."

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You haven't been paying attention.

What do you mean? If you mean interfering with officers carrying out their duties, then yes, people do get arrested for that. But you would get arrested for interfering with any law enforcement. People do get to protest but they do not get the right to protest violently nor do they get a right to interfere with law enforcement just because they disagree with the law. Just like if you want to protest eminent domain bu…

Let me be clear that ICE = DHS in my mind.

https://www.npr.org/2025/06/30/nx-s1-5445398/denaturalizatio...

https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/trumps-nspm-7-labels-commo...

This hasn't gone through but it's abundantly clear what the goals are: https://www.nationofchange.org/2025/09/15/house-bill-would-l...

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In the Westminster system, if Parliament can't pass the budget brought by the Government[0], the head of state dissolves Parliament and issues writs for a new general election. This is because raising taxes and spending money is most of what the Government does, so an inability to do this is a constitutional crisis. In the US, this is impossible, because the head of state leads the administration that prepares the bu…

In most such systems it’s a simple majority vote of a unicameral legislator. The uniqueness of the USA is the bicameral legislature with de facto veto by the minority by refusing cloture. Without at 8-10 members of the minority breaking ranks (depending on the actual split), a unified minority can cause complete gridlock.

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In reality there aren't that many jobs that exist but don't have to. The overwhelming majority of employees are paid to do work the employer needs to be done.

I honestly can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not.

It takes 10 different offices at the Department of Health and Human Services to run programs addressing AIDS in minority communities. Autism research is spread out over 11 different agencies. Eight agencies at the Defense Department are looking for prisoners of war and missing in action. And Schriever Air Force Base in Colorado has eight different satellite control centers to control 10 satellite programs.

The report, by the non-partisan Government Accountability Office, identifies 26 new areas where federal government programs are fragmented, duplicative, overlapping or just inefficient. Add that to the 162 areas identified in past reports, and Congress has a road map for saving tens of billions of dollars a year.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2014/04/08/bill...

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