These oligarchs are becoming a danger to democracy & society
Becoming? Wealth has always been a danger. The becoming part isn’t the danger but how the inequality balance is becoming so lop sided
Larry Ellison – 'citizens will be on their best behavior' amid nonstop recording
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Re: Larry Ellison – 'citizens will be on their best behavior' amid nonstop recording
#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
On the Global Peace Index, the UK is number 30 in the world and the USA is 128, below Rwanda, China, South Africa, India, Bangladesh. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Peace_Index
The GP’s comment has nothing to do with the US though. So what’s your point?
> GP’s comment has nothing to do with the US though
To which country’s citizens do you think the article featuring Larry Ellison on a podium next to Donald Trump is referring ?
Re: Larry Ellison – 'citizens will be on their best behavior' amid nonstop recording
#73This is the fascist dream. Who defines 'Best Behavior?' Whoever owns the cameras, and the cops.
Criticize the president? Not best behavior. Kiss someone of your sex/gender? Not best behavior. Call AI stupid? Not best behavior. Whistleblower on out a deadly chemical leak? Not best behavior. Disagree with a politician? Not best behavior. Defined LGBTQ+ people's rights? Not best behavior. Criticize Isreal ? Not best behavior.
They are going to define "best behavior" in a way that never threatens their feelings, let alone threatens their powers, if you let them.
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#74I encourage people making snap comments to read at least one entire paragraph of the article: > “We’re going to have supervision,” Ellison said. “Every police officer is going to be supervised at all times, and if there’s a problem, AI will report that problem and report it to the appropriate person. Citizens will be on their best behavior because we are constantly recording and reporting everything that’s going on.”…
> People do act differently when they know they are being watched. Even more so when they know they are being recorded.
Police (in the US) demonstrably do not care that they're being recorded and don't act any differently.
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#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
> just assume that there's a recording of me, at pretty much all times. I have always acted as if I was under scrutiny Have you ever taken any civic action?
I assume you mean like demonstrations and whatnot. Not especially. I tend to roll up my sleeves and work in the shade. I'm not saying it's a good thing. I'm just saying it's a thing; no matter what we think of it.
> assume you mean like demonstrations and whatnot
Not necessarily. Broadly. Advocacy, petitioning, calling, electioneering, drafting, lobbying, organising, et cetera.
A civically inactive citizenry frankly doesn’t have that much to lose from surveillance. Someone failing to exercise their political rights (EDIT: leaving them unexercised) pretty clearly communicates the value they place in them.
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#76Larry Ellison is ultra-pro Israel if you didn't know. He and others are pushing for Bari Weiss take a key role at CBS to better "defend Israel": https://nypost.com/2025/09/19/media/shari-redstone-says-bari... And many people are worried about a similar type of agenda setting at TikTok now: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/will-tiktoks-new-own... Netanyahu, for his part, believes it is super consequential for E…
what does this have to do with the story?
Re: Larry Ellison – 'citizens will be on their best behavior' amid nonstop recording
#77Larry Ellison is ultra-pro Israel if you didn't know. He and others are pushing for Bari Weiss take a key role at CBS to better "defend Israel": https://nypost.com/2025/09/19/media/shari-redstone-says-bari... And many people are worried about a similar type of agenda setting at TikTok now: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/will-tiktoks-new-own... Netanyahu, for his part, believes it is super consequential for E…
If anybody even insinuates that Weiss or Ellison have dual loyalty because of this they will be accused of anti-semitism.
The hard truth is that weaponizing your money — earned largely from Americans — to aid a foreign country at the expense of America is about as un-American as it gets. Aside from the potentially valid argument that your voice shouldn’t be louder just because you are a billionaire — you are corrupting American foreign policy and American stature in the world to advance the agenda of Israel. That is a betrayal of America.
Re: Larry Ellison – 'citizens will be on their best behavior' amid nonstop recording
#78I encourage people making snap comments to read at least one entire paragraph of the article: > “We’re going to have supervision,” Ellison said. “Every police officer is going to be supervised at all times, and if there’s a problem, AI will report that problem and report it to the appropriate person. Citizens will be on their best behavior because we are constantly recording and reporting everything that’s going on.”…
We do get a say on whether we like it or not. You CAN just decide to uphold privacy rights. We make the laws
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#79Winston kept his back turned to the telescreen. It was safer, though, as he well knew, even a back can be revealing.
'Yes,' said O'Brien, 'we can turn it off. We have that privilege.'
Re: Larry Ellison – 'citizens will be on their best behavior' amid nonstop recording
#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
I assume you mean like demonstrations and whatnot. Not especially. I tend to roll up my sleeves and work in the shade. I'm not saying it's a good thing. I'm just saying it's a thing; no matter what we think of it.
> assume you mean like demonstrations and whatnot Not necessarily. Broadly. Advocacy, petitioning, calling, electioneering, drafting, lobbying, organising, et cetera . A civically inactive citizenry frankly doesn’t have that much to lose from surveillance. Someone failing to exercise their political rights (EDIT: leaving them unexercised) pretty clearly communicates the value they place in them.
> Someone failing to exercise their political rights
I see what you did, there...
I tend to get a lot done. Not really into the whole "sound and fury" thing. I like to actually have results.