Decision support, coding, and for structured outputs I love it. I know its not human, and i write instructions that are specific to the way it reasons.
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#72A lot of us use it in a very structured manner for code and other areas. It absolutely is value for money. I don't really get what people keep complaining about. I think the complaints mostly come from people trying to embed LLMs and expecting a human like output. Decision support, coding, and for structured outputs I love it. I know its not human, and i write instructions that are specific to the way it reasons.
I don't think the companies betting on AI are burning mountains of cash because they think it will be a moderately useful tool for decision support, coding and such. They are betting this will be "The Future™" in their search of perpetual growth.
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#73Is it possible all this capital would be better deployed creating value through jobs that leverage human creativity?
They have a visceral hatred of workers. The sooner people accept that as reality, the better.
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#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
Fiber is a decades long investment into hardware- one that I would argue we hardly needed. Google fiber started with the question, what would people do with super high speed? The answer was stream higher quality videos and that's about it. In fact, by the time fiber became widespread, many had moved off of PCs to do the majority of their Internet use via cell phones. With that said, the fiber will be good for many ye…
We reemplaced one tech that was used by literally the whole world, pair copper wires, with something orders of magnitude better and future proof. My pc literally cant handle the bandwidth of my fiber connection. We did not need it? Did you ever used DSL? What is AI replacing? People?
Where I live (Germany), lots of people have vDSL at advertised speeds of 100 Mib/s, using pair copper wires. Not saying that fiber is not better, it obviously is, and hence the government is subsidizing large-scale fiber buildouts. But as it stands right now, I'm confident that for 99% of consumers, vDSL is indeed enough.
In the 90s and 2000s, I remember our (as in: tech nerds') argument to policy-makers being "just give people more bandwidth and they will find a way to use it", and in that period, that was absolutely true. In the 2000s, lots of people got access to broadband internet, and approximately five milliseconds later, YouTube launched.
But the same argument now falls apart because we have the hindsight of seeing lots of people with hundreds of megabits or even gigabit connections... and yet the most bandwidth-demanding thing most of them do is video streaming. I looked at the specs for GeForce Now, and it says that to stream the highest quality (a 5K video feed at 120Hz), you should have 65 Mib/s downstream. You can literally do that with a vDSL line. [1] Sure, there are always people with special usecases, but I don't recall any tech trend in the last 10 years that was stunted because not enough consumers had the bandwidth required to adopt it.
[1] Arguably, a 100 Mib/s line might end up delivering less than that, but I believe Nvidia have already factored this into their advertised requirements. They say that you need 25 Mib/s to sustain a 1080p 60fps stream, but my own stream recordings in the same format are only about 5 Mib/s. They might encode with higher quality than I do, but I doubt it's five times more bitrate.
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same as we have before LLMs for a decade - story points. we move faster now, we have automated stuff we could never automate before. same project, largely same team since 2016, we just get a lot more shit done, a lot more
So something like: automate unit tests, where the tests are X points where you'd not have done these before? Not snarking, but if they are automated away, then isn't this like 0 story points for effort/complexity?
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Someones ego got hurt.
talking to yourself in third person? :)
You will live the rest of your life like that. Because nobody likes you. Enjoy.
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#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
So something like: automate unit tests, where the tests are X points where you'd not have done these before? Not snarking, but if they are automated away, then isn't this like 0 story points for effort/complexity?
hehe not snarky at all - great question. this was heavily discussed but in order to measure productivity gains (we are phasing this out now) we kept the estimations the same as before. as my colleague put it you don’t estimate based on “10x developer” so we applied the same concept. now that everyone is “on board” we are phasing this out
So the product velocity didn't exactly go up, but you are now producing less technical debt (hopefully) with a similar velocity, sounds reasonable.
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talking to yourself in third person? :)
You keep comming back to this fights online because is the only real interactions you can have with people outside work. You will live the rest of your life like that. Because nobody likes you. Enjoy.