WTF is going to happen to Google's ad revenue if every PC has an AI that can perform searches on the user's behalf?
Ollama Web Search
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#72WTF is going to happen to Google's ad revenue if every PC has an AI that can perform searches on the user's behalf?
They'll have to squeeze it all from Youtube!
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Based on the fact that there are very few up-to-date English-language search indexes (Google, Bing, and Brave if you count it), it must be incredibly costly. I doubt they are maintaining their own.
We need more indexes
perplexity added API today, got the following email:
> Dear API user, We’re excited to launch the Perplexity Search API — giving developers direct access to the same real-time, high-quality web index that powers Perplexity’s answers.
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#74On a slightly related note- I've been thinking about building a home-local "mini-Google" that indexes maybe 1,000 websites. In practice, I rarely need more than a handful of sites for my searches, so it seems like overkill to rely on full-scale search engines for my use case. My rough idea for architecture: - Crawler: A lightweight scraper that visits each site periodically. - Indexer: Convert pages into text and cre…
With LLMs why do you even need a mini-Google?
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Yeah it's been a steady pivot to profitable features. Wonderful to see them build a reputation through FOSS and codebase from free labor to then cash in.
What sort of monetization model would you like to see? What model would you deem acceptable?
If I were them I'd go whole-hog on local models and:
* Work with somebody like System76 or Framework to create great hardware systems come with their ecosystem preinstalled.
* Build out a PaaS, perhaps in partnership with an existing provider, that makes it easy for anybody to do what Ollama search does. I'm more than half certain I could convince our cash strapped organization to ditch elastic search for that.
* Partner with Home Assistant, get into home automation and wipe the floor with Echo and its ilk (yeah basically resurrect Mycroft but add whole-house automation to it).
Each of those are half-baked, but it also took me 7 minutes to come up with them, and they seem more in line with what Ollama tries to represent than a pure cloud play using low-power models.
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#76I have a MCP tool that uses SERP API and it works quite well.
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#77I had no idea they had their own cloud offering, I thought the whole point of Ollama was local models? Why would I pay $20/month to use small inferior models instead of using one of the usual AI companies like OpenAI or even Mistral? I'm not going to make an account to use models on my own computer.
You make an account to use their hosted models AND to have them available via the Ollama API LOCALLY. I'm spending $100 on Claude and $200 on GPT5, so $20 bucks is NOTHING and totally worth having access to:
Qwen3 235b
Deepseek 3.1 671b (thinking and non thinking)
Llama 3.1 405b
GPT OSS 120b
Those are hardly "small inferior models".
What is really cool is that you can set Codex up to use Ollama's API and then have it run tools on different models.
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#78WTF is going to happen to Google's ad revenue if every PC has an AI that can perform searches on the user's behalf?
google.com/sorry
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#79WTF is going to happen to Google's ad revenue if every PC has an AI that can perform searches on the user's behalf?
They can always pivot to their Search-via-API business :)
It takes lots of servers to build a search engine index, and there’s nothing to indicate that this will change in the near future.
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As long as the software that runs locally gets maintained (and ideally improved, though if it is not I’ll simply move to something else), I find it difficult to be angry. I am more annoyed by software companies that offer a nerfed "community edition" whose only purpose is to coerce people into buying the commercial version.
> software companies that offer a nerfed "community edition" whose only purpose is to coerce people into buying the commercial version. This is the play. Its only a matter of time till they do it. Investors will want their returns
pardon me but is Ollama a company though? I didn't knew that actually.
And are they VC funded? Are they funded by Y-combinator or anything else..
I just thought it was a project by someone to write something similar to docker but for LLM's and that was its pitch for a really really long time I think