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Denmark wants to push through Chat Control

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Re: Denmark wants to push through Chat Control

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Post by aprilfoo »

homarp wrote: post #50
IlikeMadison wrote: post #22

>Now Paris “on the whole” agrees with the draft. France welcomes both mandatory chat control and client-side scanning. A few months ago, a broad security law was passed by the National Assembly in France. Initially, this law contained provisions, including the scanning of private messages, which were removed from the main text by a large majority of lawmakers, as it was deemed too intrusive. The few officials (includ…

see also https://tuta.com/blog/france-law-encryption

According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_the_European_Union, "legal acts include regulations, which are automatically enforceable in all member states": any move by national parliaments would be overruled.

Interesting that this national law was pushed by people in an alliance around Macron: the same team which might sign the opposite for the EU. Just a drop in an ocean of nonsense, from where such a dangerous bill might emerge.

Re: Denmark wants to push through Chat Control

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Post by Bender »

AAAAaccountAAAA wrote: post #69
Bender wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the internet will route around it How will the internet route around client side scanning? Some here will not be affected but I suspect the masses would have a harder time assuming they are even aware that cell phones, Windows recall and Mac mediaanalysisd are performing scans. Most people do not install custom phone OS images.

> Most people do not install custom phone OS images. They might start to do, if governments become so obnoxious with their surveillance, that it somehow makes life inconvenient for regular people. However, then governments will start to block the network access for "uncertified" devices and software, or even to restrict the access to general-purpose computers altogether. That's why it is better to defeat this politic…

why it is better to defeat this politically, than to play eternal cat-mouse games.

I agree but laws can take a long time to change so I prefer to do things in parallel but that's just me. I can be an ass at times.

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Post by wkat4242 »

MaxikCZ wrote: post #45
zzzeek wrote: post #21

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Id sooner move to china than US

Yeah at least there you can be sure every byte of your communication is monitored :)

I wouldn't move to either. Not sure where else though. Switzerland is even becoming anti privacy too.

Re: Denmark wants to push through Chat Control

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Post by anthk »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #42
saubeidl wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Free speech? The very thing you were just very concerned about? Also, there's no evidence that guy was leftist at all.

His mother openly says he was left-wing; the governor said he was left-wing; he has a sexual relationship with a male transitioning to female who is also a furry; he cites Bella Ciao on the ammunition; has a "Notices bulge" meme reference also on the ammunition; and you're telling me there's no evidence? Duh, he’s a leftist; and the fourth violent one the right wing can name from the last year alongside Ryan Routh, T…

It was a Groypers' member. Full stop.

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Post by wkat4242 »

sterlind wrote: post #58
zzzeek wrote: post #21

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I'm an American, and our politicians are starting to discuss forcibly institutionalizing all trans people. living my days out in a padded cell is not my idea of liberty, thank you. I'm getting out of here.

I'm so sorry this is happening to you and the rest of the community. And I don't get why they pick on the trans community so much. Apart from not aligning with their personal religious views, what else has a trans person ever done to a cis one? Most trans people I know are super respectful especially because they know what it's like to deal with bigotry every day.

I mean when they go after drug gangs, at least there's some reason. Because they're a source of violence and misery. Even though it seems to be a thinly veiled excuse to go after brown skinned people instead.

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