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Re: Abundant Intelligence

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Post by mainecoder »

toddmorey wrote: post #67
mcpar-land wrote: post #28

> As AI gets smarter, access to AI will be a fundamental driver of the economy, and maybe eventually something we consider a fundamental human right. My product is going to be the fundamental driver of the economy. Even a human right! > Maybe with 10 gigawatts of compute, AI can figure out how to cure cancer. How? > We are particularly excited to build a lot of this in the US; right now, other countries are building…

Not a word or whisper about environmental impact, either. I mean at least do some hand waving or something. I feel like a habitable planet is a fundamental right.

No worries once we have AGI we will ask it how to make up for all the emissions and solve climate change ...

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Post by mainecoder »

We is everything so negative remember all the people joking about OpenAI when it started well ... this thread will also be remembered and I am posting here for future purposes once AI has revolutionized our lives do not underestimate

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Post by kulahan »

beeflet wrote: post #49
keiferski wrote: post #44

What's the serious counter-argument to the idea that a) AI will become more ubiquitous and inexpensive and b) economic/geopolitical success will be tied in some way to AI ability? Because I do agree with him on that front. The question is whether the AI industry will end up like airplanes: massively useful technology that somehow isn't a great business to be in. If indeed that is the case, framing OpenAI as a nation-…

Maybe AI will become more ubiquitous. But I predict LLMs will be capped by the amount of training data present in the wild.

I think it'll be slightly different - without clearly marking AI-generated content, it'll be effectively impossible to find new content that isn't sold to you in pristine packages already, and even that you just sorta have to trust.

Of course, you can't train LLMs on LLM-generated content.

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Post by kulahan »

bilbo0s wrote: post #65
beeflet wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe AI will become more ubiquitous. But I predict LLMs will be capped by the amount of training data present in the wild.

I'm more worried that publicly available LLMs "will be capped by the amount of training data present in the wild" . But private LLMs, available only to the wealthy and powerful, will have additional, more pristine and accurate, data sources made available to them for training. Think about the legal field. The masses tend to use Google, whereas the wealthy and powerful all use LexisNexis. Who do you think has been win…

I don't think the masses are representing themselves in court... and even then, legal text is borderline obfuscation it's so poorly designed.

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Post by mcpar-land »

drooby wrote: post #46
mcpar-land wrote: post #28

> As AI gets smarter, access to AI will be a fundamental driver of the economy, and maybe eventually something we consider a fundamental human right. My product is going to be the fundamental driver of the economy. Even a human right! > Maybe with 10 gigawatts of compute, AI can figure out how to cure cancer. How? > We are particularly excited to build a lot of this in the US; right now, other countries are building…

No offense but your comment is basically HN parody. OpenAI created AI tech decades ahead of estimates. And they just signed a 100B deal with Nvidea. They are actually doing the things that are astonishing. Every engineer I see in coffee shops uses AI. All my coworkers use AI. I use AI. AI nearly solved protein folding. It is beginning to unlock personalized medicine. AI absolutely will be a fundamental driver of the…

> OpenAI created AI tech decades ahead of estimates. And they just signed a 100B deal with Nvidea.

Definitely don't look into the financial details of that deal with Nvidia!

> Every engineer I see in coffee shops uses AI. All my coworkers use AI. I use AI.

Okay

> AI nearly solved protein folding.

FAH predates OpenAI by fifteen years and ChatGPT 3 by twenty. Do not fall for Altman's conflation of LLMs with every other form of machine learning he and OpenAI had nothing to do with!

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Post by red_rech »

tlb wrote: post #47
Avshalom wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The fundamental driver of the economy is people eating and clothing themselves, not writing memos that are never read.

Food is 13% of US consumer spending, and clothing is 2.7%. Both have declined steadily since the industrial revolution.

Now cut off people’s access to those and let’s see how the economy does

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Post by wongarsu »

Sivart13 wrote: post #52

> Maybe with 10 gigawatts of compute, AI can figure out how to cure cancer. Something I've never understood: why do AGI perverts think that a superintelligence is any more likely to "cure cancer" than "create unstoppable super-cancer"

I'm not sure he's even talking about AGI (which feels unusual for Altman). He might be talking about GPT5 in agentic workflows. Or whatever their next model will be called

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Sivart13 wrote: post #52

> Maybe with 10 gigawatts of compute, AI can figure out how to cure cancer. Something I've never understood: why do AGI perverts think that a superintelligence is any more likely to "cure cancer" than "create unstoppable super-cancer"

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Post by nradov »

beeflet wrote: post #49
keiferski wrote: post #44

What's the serious counter-argument to the idea that a) AI will become more ubiquitous and inexpensive and b) economic/geopolitical success will be tied in some way to AI ability? Because I do agree with him on that front. The question is whether the AI industry will end up like airplanes: massively useful technology that somehow isn't a great business to be in. If indeed that is the case, framing OpenAI as a nation-…

Maybe AI will become more ubiquitous. But I predict LLMs will be capped by the amount of training data present in the wild.

That's why the competitive moat for frontier LLMs is access to proprietary training data. OpenAI and their competitors are paying fortunes to license private data sets, and in some cases even hiring human experts to write custom documents on specific topics as additional training data. This is how they hope to stay ahead of open-source alternatives.
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