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Anthropic irks White House with limits on models’ use

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Re: Anthropic irks White House with limits on models’ use

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Post by e_i_pi_2 »

g42gregory wrote: post #60

No judgement here, but a US-based corporation refusing services to the US Government? While the terms of service are what they are, the US Government can withdraw its military contracts from Anthropic (or refuse future contracts if they don't have any so far). Or softly suggest to its own contractors to limit their business dealings with Anthropic. Then Anthropic will have hard time securing computing from NVIDIA, AW…

I'm sure this sort of unofficial blacklisting is fairly common, but it does seem very opposed to the idea of a free market. It definitely doesn't seem like Anthropic was trying to make some sort of point here, but it would be cool if all the AI companies had a ToS saying it can't be used for any sort of defense/police/military purposes

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Post by Terretta »

Here's an entertaining example from 20 years ago:

By using the Apple Software, you represent and warrant that you ... also agree that you will not use these products for any purposes prohibited by United States law, including, without limitation, the development, design, manufacture or production of missiles, or nuclear, chemical or biological weapons. -- iTunes

No production of missiles with iTunes? Curses, foiled again.

Re: Anthropic irks White House with limits on models’ use

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Post by dcre »

arrozconcosas wrote: post #66
LeoPanthera wrote: post #11

One of the very few tech companies who have refused to bend the knee to the United States' current dictatorial government.

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The fact of being elected is not relevant to the question, and neither is the nominal existence of constitutional checks. Extrajudicial murder of alleged criminals, abuse of criminal prosecution to target political enemies, armed thugs yanking innocent people out of their cars, steamrolling firms and universities into administration-favorable policy changes and extracting hundreds of millions of dollars — and that's just the first few things I could think of. There are dozens of examples. It is not inflammatory to describe simple reality.

Re: Anthropic irks White House with limits on models’ use

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Post by mrbombastic »

FortuneIIIPick wrote: post #58
vkou wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Two of them jump at the command one the other one, one out of fear (because he has ended the careers of every rep that has crossed him), and the other has been packed with life-time-appointment sycophants who put loyalty to the cut over anything else. Russia (or literally any other dictatorial tyre pyre) also has three branches of government and a token opposition, for all the good it does. Just because you have a ni…

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The power of the purse is currently being usurped by the executive branch with no pushback from a republican congress, armed forces are being deployed to American cities, media corporations are being forced to have admin installed bias police, due process is a joke, museums are being forced to remove information the admin find objectionable. You can bury your head in the sand if you like but there are plenty of us who won’t.

Re: Anthropic irks White House with limits on models’ use

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Post by impossiblefork »

mindcrime wrote: post #56
impossiblefork wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here in Sweden contracts are a specific thing, otherwise it's not a contract, so agreeing to conditions that can be changed by the other party simply isn't a contract and therefore is just a bullshit paper of very dubious legal validity. I know that some things like this are accepted in America, and I can't judge how it would be dealt with. I assume that contracts between companies and other sophisticated entities ar…

I know that some things like this are accepted in America Not really. Everything you said about contracts above applies to contracts in America last time I checked. Disclaimer: IANAL, my legal training amounts of 1 semester of "Business Law" in college.

In theory yes, but you also have this stuff where people agree to get medical treatment and the price isn't specified.

This would be a non-contract in Swedish law, for example.

Re: Anthropic irks White House with limits on models’ use

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Post by knowsuchagency »

baggy_trough wrote: post #61
tene80i wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which part?

I should think that it was very obvious that America does not have a dictatorial government; this is hyperbole.

Obvious only to those with their head in the sand https://www.sfchronicle.com/opinion/openforum/article/ice-ra...

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Post by baggy_trough »

knowsuchagency wrote: post #76
baggy_trough wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I should think that it was very obvious that America does not have a dictatorial government; this is hyperbole.

Obvious only to those with their head in the sand https://www.sfchronicle.com/opinion/openforum/article/ice-ra...

ICE raids do not a dictator make.

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Post by MadnessASAP »

arrozconcosas wrote: post #66
LeoPanthera wrote: post #11

One of the very few tech companies who have refused to bend the knee to the United States' current dictatorial government.

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I would be hesitant to call the US democratic process "free and fair." And the powers held by the president certainly make them more dictatorial then the heads of state of other democracies, particularly as wielded by the current administration.

So you have a democratic process of dubious quality that elected a government that is dictator-ish.

Don't accept that your countries elections are free and fair as a axiom.

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Post by tclancy »

arrozconcosas wrote: post #66
LeoPanthera wrote: post #11

One of the very few tech companies who have refused to bend the knee to the United States' current dictatorial government.

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Arguing de jure instead of de facto is fine until the reality of the de facto affects you.
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