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Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of genocide in Gaza

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Re: Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of genocide in Gaza

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Post by dang »

ipaddr wrote: post #69

Wonder why this made the frontpage when other political articles die. Has the rules around political non technical articles changed? Can we get an Epstein thread for the frontpage sometime this week?

No, the rules haven't changed—they've been the same for many years. Let me try to dig up some past explanations.

Edit: here's one from a few months ago, which covers the principles: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43738815.

Re how we approach political topics (or political overlap) on HN in general: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so...

Re how we deal with Major Ongoing Topics, i.e. topics where there are a ton of articles and submissions over time: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

Re how we approach turning off flags: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

Re the perception that "HN has been getting more political lately" (spoiler: it hasn't - though it does fluctuate): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17014869.

If you or anyone will check out some of those links and still have a question that isn't answered there, I'd be happy to take a crack at it.

Re: Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of genocide in Gaza

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Post by decayiscreation »

dang wrote: post #71
ipaddr wrote: post #69

Wonder why this made the frontpage when other political articles die. Has the rules around political non technical articles changed? Can we get an Epstein thread for the frontpage sometime this week?

No, the rules haven't changed—they've been the same for many years. Let me try to dig up some past explanations. Edit: here's one from a few months ago, which covers the principles: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43738815 . Re how we approach political topics (or political overlap) on HN in general: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so... Re how we deal with Major Ongoing Topics, i.e. to…

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Re: Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of genocide in Gaza

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Post by dang »

decayiscreation wrote: post #72
dang wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, the rules haven't changed—they've been the same for many years. Let me try to dig up some past explanations. Edit: here's one from a few months ago, which covers the principles: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43738815 . Re how we approach political topics (or political overlap) on HN in general: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so... Re how we deal with Major Ongoing Topics, i.e. to…

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I've never discussed this topic with Garry and no one at YC has tried to influence how we moderate HN on this or any other political topic.

You might want to check out the part of the HN FAQ which explains that the moderators are editorially independent: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html.

Re: Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of genocide in Gaza

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Post by Ozzie_osman »

dang wrote: post #73
decayiscreation wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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I've never discussed this topic with Garry and no one at YC has tried to influence how we moderate HN on this or any other political topic. You might want to check out the part of the HN FAQ which explains that the moderators are editorially independent: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html .

I feel like parent probably meant Paul Graham. Garry holds polar opposite opinions (he blocked me on X because he had had made claims about what Intifada means, and as an Arabic speaker I felt compelled to point out the correct meaning).

In any case, I don't think Paul or Garry are interfering with the algorithm or moderation here.

Re: Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of genocide in Gaza

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Post by EvgeniyZh »

dang wrote: post #73
decayiscreation wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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I've never discussed this topic with Garry and no one at YC has tried to influence how we moderate HN on this or any other political topic. You might want to check out the part of the HN FAQ which explains that the moderators are editorially independent: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html .

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Re: Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of genocide in Gaza

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Post by raxxorraxor »

tovej wrote: post #56
raxxorraxor wrote: post #54

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You can read up about the members of the Pillay commission, the "Top UN legal investigators", yourself. It is just ridiculous. Reminder that thousands of rockets rained on Israel on October 7th. Crying genocide after such an attack when your enemy retaliates and retaliates very harshly in the context of middle eastern politics will never be reasonable. Hamas is free to surrender and everything would stop tomorrow. I…

Reminder that Israel razed hundreds of Palestinian villages to the ground in 1948, and expelled half the Palestinian population from their homeland. Israel has always wanted to ethnically cleanse Palestine of the indigenous population. It has resisted any diplomatic route to a two-state solution, going as far as financing Hamas because Fatah was moving towards a peaceful resolution, and Hamas was seen as an adversary…

Yeah, almost as many people as Jews were driven out of surrounding countries. I don't think headcounts do serve any sensible argument.

There is a lot of fiction in your post and I am not surprised that you have a problem with the existence of Israel.

Re: Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of genocide in Gaza

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Post by imglorp »

therobots927 wrote: post #61
yieldcrv wrote: post #14

Useless except if the following done on the US side: Remove exception to AIPAC political status Reevaluate AIPAC non profit status entirely Replicate EO 14046 for Israel which adds the entire ruling party and head of state and spouses and military and affiliated business to the OFAC list all of this is easy and doesn’t require Congress but nobody is close to considering those actions with regard to Israel. Notably, o…

Voters can take a stand and refuse to vote for anyone complicit in this atrocity.

In the US, both parties were supportive in the last election. Not many choices.

Re: Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of genocide in Gaza

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Post by MangoToupe »

I'm afraid the latest spate of "recognizing the state of Palestine" is not, in fact, a sign of coming relief for the people there, but rather a spigot to relieve domestic pressure to engage in substantive actions (sanctions, pressuring the US and other suppliers of arms to engage in sanctions, let alone sending peacekeepers or no-fly zones).

Regardless of how much you're personally invested in the topic, this should break the hearts of everyone who dreamed that the international community could hold each other legally accountable. Indeed, the US would rather sanction individuals at the ICJ than acknowledge any sort of legitimacy—even as our own politicians accuse Russia of engaging in "war crimes". I have no doubt that they are, in fact, I think that the evidence is quite damning. But the double standard is striking, as is the difference between the footage visible on social media and what is acknowledged when you turn on the TV or open the paper.

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