No SATA :(
What is your project where 2 x NVMe is not suitable for storage?
I'd like a decent RISC or ARM SBC for a NAS.
Orange Pi RV2 $40 RISC-V SBC: Friendly Gateway to IoT and AI Projects
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Re: Orange Pi RV2 $40 RISC-V SBC: Friendly Gateway to IoT and AI Projects
#72Re: Orange Pi RV2 $40 RISC-V SBC: Friendly Gateway to IoT and AI Projects
#73Ubuntu will not support RISC-V CPUs without RVA23 support going further, so this is stuck on 24.04 forever. There is no official Debian image either, and the Ubuntu version uses fixed kernel 6.6.47 with no further updates (it is not even installed from a repo). I own one since a couple months ago but I already regret the purchase.
>I own one since a couple months ago but I already regret the purchase. This is me with every single SBC
My pair of RockPro64s refuse to go to the drawer. Every time they are about to retire something comes up that is the perfect job for those machines.
One is currently running Scripted to integrate my unifi cameras to HomeKit. Zero fans.
I've equipped the other one with 2 beefy 22TB HDDs, Tailscale and Minio. I'll send to my parent's house to act as remote backups.
Re: Orange Pi RV2 $40 RISC-V SBC: Friendly Gateway to IoT and AI Projects
#74What a disastrously bad name.
Re: Orange Pi RV2 $40 RISC-V SBC: Friendly Gateway to IoT and AI Projects
#75The big ecosystem of SBCs confuses me a bit. Who is buying these? The work required to build an actual secure, maintainable product on top of an SBC is so big that you'd surely never use one of these. The hard work is all in software. You need a supplier with product lifetime guarantees and a known SoC manufacturer. If you're a hobbyist, unless you really don't value your time you'd be much better served buying an x8…
You don’t need that many customers to design and ship an SBC. The hobbyist market is enough to sustain these companies. They can sell accessories to increase their margins. Their contract manufacturer can incrementally build batches of the boards.
Many of these boards serve as development boards for the parts they include. If you want a dev board to try this part or you need a cheap RISC-V system to test RISC-V things on, buying one of these is an easy choice.
Re: Orange Pi RV2 $40 RISC-V SBC: Friendly Gateway to IoT and AI Projects
#76The big ecosystem of SBCs confuses me a bit. Who is buying these? The work required to build an actual secure, maintainable product on top of an SBC is so big that you'd surely never use one of these. The hard work is all in software. You need a supplier with product lifetime guarantees and a known SoC manufacturer. If you're a hobbyist, unless you really don't value your time you'd be much better served buying an x8…
>Who is buying these?
If only you knew the ecosystem in China and Taiwan. Even a fraction of the Chinese domestic market alone is enough.
Re: Orange Pi RV2 $40 RISC-V SBC: Friendly Gateway to IoT and AI Projects
#77The big ecosystem of SBCs confuses me a bit. Who is buying these? The work required to build an actual secure, maintainable product on top of an SBC is so big that you'd surely never use one of these. The hard work is all in software. You need a supplier with product lifetime guarantees and a known SoC manufacturer. If you're a hobbyist, unless you really don't value your time you'd be much better served buying an x8…
> So who's the target market? Are there products out there built on these? Or are they mostly just shipped straight into desk drawers? How many of these do they actually ship?
Hobbyists, mainly.
I could see this being a hit with people who want to work with RISC-V, which still needs a lot of low-level stuff built out for its ecosystem. You don't need it to be a screamer, just for it to run predictably.
Remember, the Raspberry Pi was mainly a hobbyist curiosity when it came out. There's definitely a market.
Re: Orange Pi RV2 $40 RISC-V SBC: Friendly Gateway to IoT and AI Projects
#78The big ecosystem of SBCs confuses me a bit. Who is buying these? The work required to build an actual secure, maintainable product on top of an SBC is so big that you'd surely never use one of these. The hard work is all in software. You need a supplier with product lifetime guarantees and a known SoC manufacturer. If you're a hobbyist, unless you really don't value your time you'd be much better served buying an x8…
There are many products that are only expected to sell in low volumes and high margins. Also, prototyping, proof of concepts, one-offs, etc. Those are all areas that I've seen them used.
Re: Orange Pi RV2 $40 RISC-V SBC: Friendly Gateway to IoT and AI Projects
#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
> this is stuck on 24.04 forever But as a basis for IoT projects that's perfectly fine. They're meant to be install and forget.
only if you find it acceptable to have your IoT projects participate in botnets down the line, I guess.
Distributed computing is a perfect fit for IoT devices which mostly sit idle. Put those cycles to use!
Re: Orange Pi RV2 $40 RISC-V SBC: Friendly Gateway to IoT and AI Projects
#80Ubuntu will not support RISC-V CPUs without RVA23 support going further, so this is stuck on 24.04 forever. There is no official Debian image either, and the Ubuntu version uses fixed kernel 6.6.47 with no further updates (it is not even installed from a repo). I own one since a couple months ago but I already regret the purchase.
Kinda tricky. Last time this came up, the consensus was that approximately nothing commercially available supported RVA23 at the time.