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Programmers Must Take Vitamin D

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I supplement with 5000iu per day, and check my blood levels regularly. Even with supplementation far exceeding governmental recommendations, My blood levels have never exceeded 70 ng/mL, which is well within the health range of 30 - 100 ng/mL. My advice is to get yourself tested, supplement, and continue testing. http://wellnessfx.com is a great service for minimum effort monitoring. Alternatively you can use cash-ba…

I cannot wait for Wellness FX to come to Canada. Here doctors look at you funny if you want to track biomarkers. "You're young, problems don't occur until you get old". As if they've never heard of prevention.

I was just going to ask if there are similar services in the UK. I'm assuming that we can't get this through the NHS, so does anybody know of any private services?

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Every day at about lunch time I go lie on the roof in the sun for 10 minutes - doctor's orders. I also take D supplements but that alone was not enough to get my levels back to the normal range so I have to get some actual sun as often as I can too.

It's a bit of a 'damned if you do, damned if you don't' situation here in Australia: Approximately two in three Australians will be diagnosed with skin cancer before the age of 70, while approximately one out of three Australians have vitamin D deficiency...

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I have a better idea. Go outside. I have a garden. I have a deck. I have two kids who I take to the pool regularly. I have a lawn that needs maintenance. I like to go outside. Another thing. I work during the day. Problem solved.

That might work for you, but I got into computers because it is the only thing I like.

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Every day at about lunch time I go lie on the roof in the sun for 10 minutes - doctor's orders. I also take D supplements but that alone was not enough to get my levels back to the normal range so I have to get some actual sun as often as I can too. It's a bit of a 'damned if you do, damned if you don't' situation here in Australia: Approximately two in three Australians will be diagnosed with skin cancer before the…

Solution: Take a supplement and get a blood test for 25-OH D3. (MD in Training here with a keen interest and practical experience with D Deficency)

Re: Programmers Must Take Vitamin D

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There are many different types of vitamin D synthesized in our bodies which require sunlight to form. The many varieties of D are used in an enormous amount of different chemical processes in our bodies- many of which are quite complex and not fully understood. Vitamin D supplements consist of (mostly) one type of Vitamin D. People are typically deficient in that specific type so mild supplementation is a reasonable…

Also, Vitamin D is just one particular aspect our bodies depend on the sun. You also need sun exposition to improve the immune system, avoid depression and insomnia. Not to mention all the other biochemical processes and health benefits we still might not know. The obvious fact is that we evolved to live under at least some sun exposition (depending on your genetic background), trying to replace that entirely with pi…

The above Factors are mostly regarding Vitamin D production or exposure onto your retinas. Nobody is claiming you need to replace it entirely. The right strategy depends on the context and esp. at which ends of the normal distribution curve you are (regarding sun exposure).

It's very seductive to argue from an evolutionary advantage perspective. It can be used to generate Hypotheses that need testing. But one shouldn't give health advice based on it. After all we brush teeth, wear clothes and benefit massively from machines and modern medicine.

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Apparently they cost $199, and are only available in a few states right now. Not all of the USA. With all health care free of charge in Canada, I think it will be a while yet before they cross the border unfortunately. I have been for many physicals but have never had my blood checked for levels of anything really.

I think it's incorrect to use free health care as a "competitor" for this product. Here in Belgium (with free and awesome healthcare) people still pay for organic food, supplements, gym memberships and many other things to stay healthy. So I would assume there would be a market for this too. I am speaking anecdotally though, like you.

They are competitors. Both do blood tests. It depends on how much your current healthcare provider would charge and what kinds of tests they'd run. They do the same thing (but possibly give you the results in a more enjoyable/easier to understand interface).

There will be quite some people that would pay more for better treatment/faster service. Or because doctors refuse the tests.

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Also, Vitamin D is just one particular aspect our bodies depend on the sun. You also need sun exposition to improve the immune system, avoid depression and insomnia. Not to mention all the other biochemical processes and health benefits we still might not know. The obvious fact is that we evolved to live under at least some sun exposition (depending on your genetic background), trying to replace that entirely with pi…

The above Factors are mostly regarding Vitamin D production or exposure onto your retinas. Nobody is claiming you need to replace it entirely. The right strategy depends on the context and esp. at which ends of the normal distribution curve you are (regarding sun exposure). It's very seductive to argue from an evolutionary advantage perspective. It can be used to generate Hypotheses that need testing. But one shouldn…

> It's very seductive to argue from an evolutionary advantage perspective. It can be used to generate Hypotheses that need testing. But one shouldn't give health advice based on it. After all we brush teeth, wear clothes and benefit massively from machines and modern medicine.

It's about sane defaults. The effort to validate every reasonable hypothesis is extraordinary, and sometimes impossible. We can't afford to live our lives based only on what conclusions science has been able to come to so far. Making some choices based on ancestral norms is perfectly acceptable and better than many alternatives.

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I cannot wait for Wellness FX to come to Canada. Here doctors look at you funny if you want to track biomarkers. "You're young, problems don't occur until you get old". As if they've never heard of prevention.

I was just going to ask if there are similar services in the UK. I'm assuming that we can't get this through the NHS, so does anybody know of any private services?

It should be available, but you should be prepared to educate your GP first. I did, providing him with research papers.

It is also available privately, for example here http://www.76harleystreet.com/sections/news/winterVitD

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