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High Altitude Living – 8,000 ft and above (2021)

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I lived at 10,600 feet for 6.5 weeks last summer, coming from essentially sea level. I felt like I was adjusted 90% adjusted about 2 weeks in, like I could walk at a normal speed. My Garmin watch agreed with this adaption. However, trying to mountain bike with the locals was hilarious... even at week 6 I barely started to be able to keep up on climbs. I rode my mountain bike nearly every day, or at minimum took a sev…

out of curiosity, Leadville?

Re: High Altitude Living – 8,000 ft and above (2021)

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I wonder if they're confusing the cause and effect. Do people who live above 8k feet not die of heart disease or do people with heart disease find it too difficult to live above 8k feet so only people without heart disease live above 8k feet? I live at 7200 feet and I know several people who have moved to lower altitudes because it's "too hard to breath" here.

I visited Mexico City a couple weeks ago and it is at 7200 feet. As I got off the plane I was gasping a bit and I woke up 3 or 4 times the first night gasping for air. I didn't have any problems visiting Denver at 5000 feet in years past but I was absolutely feeling it at 7200. I didn't stay long enough to see if I would acclimate as I continued to feel bad and returned home early.

There are reasons to be gasping for air in Mexico City that don't have to do with the altitude.. has terrible air quality

Re: High Altitude Living – 8,000 ft and above (2021)

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My in-laws have a timeshare at 8300 feet. The first couple of days we have to take it easy and drink a ton of water, but then we kinda get used to it. And definitely feel superhuman when we return to sea level! The hardest part is getting used to cooking at the elevation.

Super curious, what’s different about cooking in your experience?

Re: High Altitude Living – 8,000 ft and above (2021)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The line of death is at 8,000 meters, not feet

Nope. Feet. At least, that's what I remember from the film, and the Wikipedia page says "feet." Also, I don't know if the Rockies have a 25,000-foot mountain (I think the Andes do, though). Us Americans are kinda awkward about measurement units...

Even that’s a stretch.

The highest peak in the Andes, is Mount Aconcagua, which is just under 7,000 meters. That’s the highest point in the Western Hemisphere.

Re: High Altitude Living – 8,000 ft and above (2021)

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I am originally from the Himalayas (Garhwal specifically), although not quite as high as in the article, my village is at 5000 ft and damn did I have a shock when I took my desi friends up there (desi means people from the Indo-Gangetic plains, I unfortunately had to come to New Delhi for college and you can imagine the contrast!). While in Delhi, I am one of the more unathletic nerds, but as soon as we were in the m…

Ask a Himachali person how far something is and it's always "just around the next hill." Another couple of hours of walking and you"ll still get the same answer.

Re: High Altitude Living – 8,000 ft and above (2021)

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My in-laws have a timeshare at 8300 feet. The first couple of days we have to take it easy and drink a ton of water, but then we kinda get used to it. And definitely feel superhuman when we return to sea level! The hardest part is getting used to cooking at the elevation.

Super curious, what’s different about cooking in your experience?

Water boils at lower temperature because of lower pressure at higher altitude. As a result cooking is different - normal recipes don’t work as expected. From my personal anecdotal experience even grilling somehow is different at 8000ft.

Re: High Altitude Living – 8,000 ft and above (2021)

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I lived at 10,600 feet for 6.5 weeks last summer, coming from essentially sea level. I felt like I was adjusted 90% adjusted about 2 weeks in, like I could walk at a normal speed. My Garmin watch agreed with this adaption. However, trying to mountain bike with the locals was hilarious... even at week 6 I barely started to be able to keep up on climbs. I rode my mountain bike nearly every day, or at minimum took a sev…

> it's already been proven that leading an active lifestyle is one of the most amazing things you can do for your health and happiness.

For your health sure. But for happiness, only if you actually like sporty activities. I don't, and it feels like a chore. Having to do chores all the time makes me unhappy. I've always hated anything to do with sports.

In think some people get an endorfin hit from it but for me that doesn't do much either. I just feel empty and exhausted after it.

Re: High Altitude Living – 8,000 ft and above (2021)

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8,000 ft (2,400 meters) isn't particularly high. Millions of people live at that altitude. It's extremely common for people to go on a skiing vacation at that altitude or above, up to maybe 4,000 meters, and not need to take any particular precautions. As to comments here about days resting while progressing to higher altitudes, such as in the Himalayas. A day or two will mostly result in adjustments in the water bal…

Yeah, I spend a decent amount of time during the year at 6500-7000 feet (and live at sea level for the rest of the year). There's always an acclimation period when I first get there, but it's nowhere near as severe as the article suggests. I'm fine going right to the gym or whatever when I get there; I don't need a few days of rest first. In the winter I'll spend hours of the day up at 8000-9000 feet, and yes, I get…

15k feet is already in danger territory for unpressurized aircraft. Above 14000 ft a pilot must use oxygen immediately. And that's not even strenuous work (though decision making and spatial awareness is also very affected)

Re: High Altitude Living – 8,000 ft and above (2021)

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I am originally from the Himalayas (Garhwal specifically), although not quite as high as in the article, my village is at 5000 ft and damn did I have a shock when I took my desi friends up there (desi means people from the Indo-Gangetic plains, I unfortunately had to come to New Delhi for college and you can imagine the contrast!). While in Delhi, I am one of the more unathletic nerds, but as soon as we were in the m…

I visited the region around Dharamshala last year which is the same altitude (1500m) and was somewhat surprised I did not notice any effects of the altitude. My whole life (nearly 40) I've been living at sea level, except for trips.

I've lived mostly outside cities though so no major pollution. I'd imagine for Delhi folks the pollution must have a big effect on their lungs - but you'd think it would translate to working well for high altitude.

Re: High Altitude Living – 8,000 ft and above (2021)

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I lived at 10,600 feet for 6.5 weeks last summer, coming from essentially sea level. I felt like I was adjusted 90% adjusted about 2 weeks in, like I could walk at a normal speed. My Garmin watch agreed with this adaption. However, trying to mountain bike with the locals was hilarious... even at week 6 I barely started to be able to keep up on climbs. I rode my mountain bike nearly every day, or at minimum took a sev…

I had that exact feeling when I visited denver, many years ago when I was doing triathlons. I woke up the next morning, went to the gym to do a 1 hour bike threshold session, and started panting for breath within the first 10 minutes of warmup. I was like, what-the-heck?

Then I remember Denver was the mile-high city.

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