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Claude now has access to a server-side container environment

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Re: Claude now has access to a server-side container environment

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They need to focus on fixing reliability first. Their systems constantly go down and it appears they are having to quantise the models to keep up with demand, reducing intelligence significantly. New features like this feel pointless when the underlying model is becoming unusable.

This can't be understated. I started using it heavily earlier this summer and it felt like magic. Someone signing up now based on how I described my personal experiences with it then would think I was out of my mind . For technical tasks it has been a net negative for me for the last several weeks. (Speaking of both Claude Code and the desktop app, both Sonnet and Opus >=4, on the Max plan.)

This, so much this...

I signed up for Claude over a week ago and I totally regret it!

Previously I was using it and some ChatGPT here and there (also had a subscription in the past) and I felt like Claude added some more value.

But it's getting so unstable. It generates code, I see it doing that, and then it throws the code away and gives me the previous version of something 1:1 as a new version.

And then I have to waste CO2 to tell it to please don't do that and then sometimes it generates what I want, sometimes it just generates it again, just to throw it away immediately...

This is soooooooo annoying and the reason I canceled my subscription!

Re: Claude now has access to a server-side container environment

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This will either result in a lot of people being able to sleep more, or an absolute avalanche of crap is about to be released upon society. A lot of the people I graduated with spent their 20s making powerpoint and excel. There would be people with a master's in engineering getting phone calls at 1am, with an instruction to change the fonts on slide 75, or to slightly modify some calculation. Most of the real decisio…

Finance?

Yeah, investment banking

Re: Claude now has access to a server-side container environment

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This can't be understated. I started using it heavily earlier this summer and it felt like magic. Someone signing up now based on how I described my personal experiences with it then would think I was out of my mind . For technical tasks it has been a net negative for me for the last several weeks. (Speaking of both Claude Code and the desktop app, both Sonnet and Opus >=4, on the Max plan.)

"can't be overstated", you mean

You're absolutely right! I should have used the correct word when writing the Hacker News comment.

(lol, yes, thank you.)

Re: Claude now has access to a server-side container environment

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No, but the salaries of the people shipping those fixtures could be spent on people who can fix the reliability problems.

Wait—surely they're dogfooding Claude for infrastructure tasks, making existing engineers 10x as productive, requiring less human engineers overall?

Why are these AI companies still hiring? If their "AI"s are so awesome and make devs 10x shouldn't they be firing?

Re: Claude now has access to a server-side container environment

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This will either result in a lot of people being able to sleep more, or an absolute avalanche of crap is about to be released upon society. A lot of the people I graduated with spent their 20s making powerpoint and excel. There would be people with a master's in engineering getting phone calls at 1am, with an instruction to change the fonts on slide 75, or to slightly modify some calculation. Most of the real decisio…

10x as much useless work, guaranteed. Remind me in ten years :)

Re: Claude now has access to a server-side container environment

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One step closer to mass unemployment, yay!

That doesn't make any sense and isn't an appropriate comment for this discussion. The Anthropic product adding a feature is not the end of employment or even a step along the way. MOST PEOPLE can't even use an actual computer yet even think about programming. WYSIWYG editors didn't kill web development because most people are simply too stupid to understand a new tool, let alone use it.

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Re: Claude now has access to a server-side container environment

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If the final Claude goal is to remove human from the process (IA can do everything), what's the point of having these files? If they are going to be feed again to a model to interpret them, wouldn't be better to use something simpler/easier to parse?

Yes, but that final claude is much further away than people think. So for a while, enhancing human productivity seems like a benefit

Re: Claude now has access to a server-side container environment

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For the past two to three weeks I've noticed Claude just consistently lagging or potentially even being throttled for pretty minor coding or CLI tasks. It'll basically stop showing any progress for at least a couple minutes. Sometimes exiting the query and re-trying gets it to work but other times it keeps happening. I pay for Pro so I don't think it's just API rate limiting.

Would appreciate if that could be fixed but of course new features are more interesting for them to prioritize.

Re: Claude now has access to a server-side container environment

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Not nitpicking, but they said: > we never intentionally degrade model quality as a result of demand or other factors Fully giving them the benefit of the doubt, I still think that still allows for a scenario like "we may [switch to quantized models|tune parameters], but our internal testing showed that these interventions didn't materially affect end user experience". I hate to parse their words in this way, because…

"Anecdata" is notoriously unreliable when it comes to estimating AI performance over time. Sure, people complain about Anthropic's AI models getting worse over time. As well as OpenAI's models getting worse over time. But guess what? If you serve them open weights models, they also complain about models getting worse over time. Same exact checkpoint, same exact settings, same exact hardware. Relative LMArena metrics,…

You’re not wrong, but, I can literally see it get worse throughout the day sometimes, especially recently. Coinciding with Pacific Time Zone business hours.

Quantization could be done, not to deliberately make the model worse, but to increase reliability! Like Apple throttling devices - they were just trying to save your battery! After all there are regular outages, and some pretty major ones a handful of weeks back taking eg Opus offline for an entire afternoon.

Re: Claude now has access to a server-side container environment

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This feature is a little confusing. It looks to me like a variant of the Code Interpreter pattern, where Claude has a (presumably sandboxed) server-side container environment in which it can run Python. When you ask it to make a spreadsheet it runs this: pip install openpyxl pandas --break-system-packages And then generates and runs a Python script. What's weird is that when you enable it in https://claude.ai/setting…

It works for me on the https://claude.ai web all but doesn't appear to work in the Claude iOS app. I tried "Tell me everything you can about your shell and Python environments" and got some interesting results after it ran a bunch of commands. Linux runsc 4.4.0 #1 SMP Sun Jan 10 15:06:54 PST 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux Ubuntu 24.04.2 LTS Python 3.12.3 /usr/bin/node is v18.19.1 Disk Space: 4.9GB total, with 4.…

Turns out the allowlist is fully documented here: https://support.anthropic.com/en/articles/12111783-create-an...
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