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iMessage backups in the cloud are subject to warrants. Even if you don't use iCloud backups, can you be sure everyone you communicate with also abstains?
Aren’t those encrypted with a key that lives on your device only?
Ex-WhatsApp cybersecurity head says Meta endangered billions of users
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Re: Ex-WhatsApp cybersecurity head says Meta endangered billions of users
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> outside of the West you probably mean outside of the USA, it's huge in Europe/UK (which doesn't contradict your main point)
It is huge in Latin America. USA is special because it is the (only?) country where iPhone has more users than Android.
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#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
> outside of the West you probably mean outside of the USA, it's huge in Europe/UK (which doesn't contradict your main point)
It is huge in Latin America. USA is special because it is the (only?) country where iPhone has more users than Android.
Re: Ex-WhatsApp cybersecurity head says Meta endangered billions of users
#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
It is huge in Latin America. USA is special because it is the (only?) country where iPhone has more users than Android.
It's crazy how an US company dominates the world's messaging market but not in the US
Re: Ex-WhatsApp cybersecurity head says Meta endangered billions of users
#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
> outside of the West you probably mean outside of the USA, it's huge in Europe/UK (which doesn't contradict your main point)
It is huge in Latin America. USA is special because it is the (only?) country where iPhone has more users than Android.
Re: Ex-WhatsApp cybersecurity head says Meta endangered billions of users
#76Given how WhatsApp is the de-facto way to communicate outside of the West and China, these security/data-handling "weaknesses" are most likely a feature, not a bug. An absolute bonanza for the certain intelligence services. Remember, kids: End to end encryption is useless if the "ends" are fully controlled by an (untrustworthy) third party.
> outside of the West you probably mean outside of the USA, it's huge in Europe/UK (which doesn't contradict your main point)
Re: Ex-WhatsApp cybersecurity head says Meta endangered billions of users
#77I hate Meta as much as the next person, but it feels like "endangering billions of users" is exagerating here. The complaint is pretty much that WhatsApp engineers can access metadata ( NOT the content of the messages). This said, WhatsApp is not open source, so it's impossible for users to verify how the encryption works, so users have to trust that it's properly end-to-end encrypted. If you care about privacy (and…
Re: Ex-WhatsApp cybersecurity head says Meta endangered billions of users
#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
It is huge in Latin America. USA is special because it is the (only?) country where iPhone has more users than Android.
It's crazy how an US company dominates the world's messaging market but not in the US
Re: Ex-WhatsApp cybersecurity head says Meta endangered billions of users
#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
> outside of the West you probably mean outside of the USA, it's huge in Europe/UK (which doesn't contradict your main point)
I’m not sure that’s true. I’m fairly certain UK, France, AU, Canada WhatsApp is not vastly more popular than the blue bubble alternative. At least I believe this was the case a few years ago, based on data I’d seen.
Blue bubble isn't really a thing ever mentioned in France either, not enough iPhone market share.