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Re: Building my childhood dream PC

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If the processor comes with builtin GPU, NPU and RAM will you be really building the system

Sure. Building a PC already is barely building anything. You buy a handful of components and click them into each other.

While that is mostly true there is a large variety of motherboards. It took me a while to find something with the right SATA and PCIE slots that I wanted. But after that it is just using a screwdriver and some cable ties.

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Honestly at this point it's not so much about money as it is about whether or not this particular case/setup/components combo is salvageable with minimal effort. The CPU fan is rarely an issue (it mostly just goes bananas when IntelliJ gets its business on with gradle on a new project XD). The GPU is the main culprit and I'm not sure there's any solution there that doesn't involve just replacing it.

Depending on the fans it may be possible to re-oil the bearings.

Interesting idea. I feel like the fan noise from my GPU is just air moving, but maybe not.

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There are a handful of professional uses for a workstation that are hard to beat with a laptop. If you're compiling code, you generally want as much concurrency as you can get, as well as great single core speed when the task parallelism runs out. There aren't really any laptops with high core counts, and even when you have something with horsepower, you run into thermal limits. You can try and make do with remoting…

All of these can be done much better on the cloud (I can spawn as big of a machine as my pocket can afford). And with today’s tooling (vs code & jetbrains remote development) you don’t even notice that you develop on a remote machine and not your local. So the desktop developer market is for those who are not willing to use cloud. And this is a very small minority. (FYI I am not endorsing cloud over local development…

> of these can be done much better on the cloud. If you forget about the latency, yes. Suddenly your "cc a.c -o a.o" becomes " issue the command, wait for the server to start it, ping pong between your teminal and server for messages, final file available on the cloud"

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RAM? Are we expecting on-chip RAM any time soon?

Apple's done it since 2020. Intel was planning to, but walked it back. It dramatically increases performance, and allows vendors to sell you RAM at 8x the market price, and requires you to replace your entire computer to upgrade it, thereby inducing you to overspend on RAM from the outset so that you don't have to spend even more to replace the entire system later. There's literally no reason for shareholders not to…

> allows vendors to sell you RAM at 8x the market price, and requires you to replace your entire computer to upgrade it,

Good luck then. Some of us build our own computers to be upgreadable.

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Honestly, that IBM PS/1 model 2168 computer case looks retro, but also classy and nerdy. I miss the days when computers had enough free slots for external media drives. I really like physical media like CD-ROMs, Blu-ray disks, and floppy disks (I don't use those anymore). It's getting harder and harder to find a computer case that has a slot for a Blu-ray/CD drive.

The design of computer cases has died some 15 years ago. The only thing they got now is "RGB LEDs".

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oh man, what a trip down memory lane. i started building PCs in college with 386/486s and last year rebuilt my silly custom loop watercooled workstation. :) and yes: the supplied pc docs back then >>>>>>>> supplied pc docs today

Were they 80486 or i486 8) SX or DX? My first "PC" was a Sinclair ZX80. I got my soldering iron out. Much later on (1986ish) my Dad bought a Commodore 64, unfortunately he plugged the power lead into the video socket, when me and my brother arrived home for Chrimbo. Dad got it repaired and it served us very well for several years. I still have that C64 and it was repaired again a few years ago (re-capped). It now has…

i was Intel. IBM had Cyrix. AMD also had some "clones"

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>Joystic port or MIDI port? Back in the days I only ever thought of the DA-15 as the Game port[1]. To me it was only meant to welcome a joystick and play flight simulators. Little did I know that it could also be used as an output to send MIDI commands to a MPU 401-UART! With no latency of course because USB hadn't been invented yet. >My SC-55ST came without a power supply. That was the opportunity to understand bett…

> With no latency of course because USB hadn't been invented yet.

USB is a shitshow. The idea is good but, the latency, for small files, is terrible.

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There are a handful of professional uses for a workstation that are hard to beat with a laptop. If you're compiling code, you generally want as much concurrency as you can get, as well as great single core speed when the task parallelism runs out. There aren't really any laptops with high core counts, and even when you have something with horsepower, you run into thermal limits. You can try and make do with remoting…

> There are a handful of professional uses for a workstation I've historically built my own workstations. My premise is that my most recent build may be my last or second to last. In ten years, I will still have a workstation - but not one that I build from parts.

I also built my own, since the late 90s. But I'm not building my newest: a 96 core threadripper with 768GB ram. I went with a specialist to ensure it works compatibly. I expect it to last me a good few years, and I don't really anticipate replacing it with anything too similar.
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