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Kazeta: An operating system that brings the console gaming experience of 90s

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Re: Kazeta: An operating system that brings the console gaming experience of 90s

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Post by sgbeal »

alex_suzuki wrote: post #21
brabel wrote: post #2

Before reading this I didn’t realize how today gaming is different from 80’s and 90’s gaming , to the point Kazeta is a thing! I thought that mostly, CDs had replaced cartridges and loading games became slow, but apparently subscription plans, online chat and “micro transactions” are now accepted as standard gaming?!

I had to explain to my kids (10 and 6yr old) recently what this shiny round thing was that they got from the library…

Back around 1990 my youngest brother, who had always seen CDs, asked me one day, "what are those things in your closet?" "What things?" "They look like CDs but they're big and black!" He had never seen a record before.

Re: Kazeta: An operating system that brings the console gaming experience of 90s

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Post by carra »

lproven wrote: post #70

This sounds potentially interesting, but the website is so vague it's criminal. I have absolutely no idea what the "console gaming experience of the 1990s" was. What console? What experience? I've only owned 3 games consoles in my life. An original XBox, a gift from a friend which I immediately hacked to be an XBox Media Centre and used daily for years but never played a game on again. A PS2. And now a Wii for my kid…

Not saying you are wrong about that, but if you don't know about 90s console gaming and you only used the XBox as media center you are likely not the target audience for this project anyway.

Re: Kazeta: An operating system that brings the console gaming experience of 90s

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Post by pipes »

112233 wrote: post #67
ofrzeta wrote: post #65

I am currently working on something like this for audio, basically just like a MP3 player with full size SD cards that plays automatically when you insert them (for kids). It's actually quite hard to find full size SD cards these days and when you do they are comparatively expensive (opposed to current micro SD cards). Also I wanted to have low capacity like 128MB, so the concept "one album, one card" (as in the OP -…

Super interested in something like this. Currently there is no easily operated audiobook player for elderly or people with severe arthritis. My eventual workaround was cheap bluetooth speaker (because expensive ones did not remember playback position inside a track) and a whole heap of super low capacity usb drives.

https://uk.yotoplay.com/yoto-mini

My wife bought this. I was deeply sceptical. But it's lovely, you can put story cards in it. My 6 year old daughter loves it. And we listen to a daily yoto podcast at dinner every day.

Edited, found link to version we own

Re: Kazeta: An operating system that brings the console gaming experience of 90s

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Post by mulletbum »

lproven wrote: post #70

This sounds potentially interesting, but the website is so vague it's criminal. I have absolutely no idea what the "console gaming experience of the 1990s" was. What console? What experience? I've only owned 3 games consoles in my life. An original XBox, a gift from a friend which I immediately hacked to be an XBox Media Centre and used daily for years but never played a game on again. A PS2. And now a Wii for my kid…

I have to say, this is not targeted at you. I know exactly what a 1990s gaming experience is like and xbox is the console that killed it completely.

Re: Kazeta: An operating system that brings the console gaming experience of 90s

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Post by pezezin »

sgbeal wrote: post #69
pansa2 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

CDs specifically are obsolete, but games on optical media are still a thing. Unlike ROM cartridges, which AFAICT died with the GBA in 2008.

> Unlike ROM cartridges, which AFAICT died with the GBA in 2008. Look up the Gameboy 3DS :).

3DS carts are actually NAND flash, and if you don't play them for long enough the may lost all the data!

https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2021/05/psa_yes_your_ds_an...

Re: Kazeta: An operating system that brings the console gaming experience of 90s

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Post by jnaina »

cout wrote: post #51
vanderZwan wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's an OS that mounts/searches all drives (such as an SD card reader) for the first available KZI file which is a format that describes how a specific game is run (the runtime, additional gamescope options, etc). I hope it also supports putting multiple games on one cartridge and choosing between them at boot time? Don't see a reason to waste a multi-gigabyte SD card on a single ROM of a few megabytes.

Is it still possible to buy smaller SD cards in bulk, maybe 8mb or 16mb? The smallest I could find was 128mb for about the same price as a 2gb card. While I like the idea of physically separate cards for each game, at $10 per card it seems economically limiting.

<$3 bucks for 16GB on AliExpress

Re: Kazeta: An operating system that brings the console gaming experience of 90s

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Post by ninetyninenine »

lproven wrote: post #70

This sounds potentially interesting, but the website is so vague it's criminal. I have absolutely no idea what the "console gaming experience of the 1990s" was. What console? What experience? I've only owned 3 games consoles in my life. An original XBox, a gift from a friend which I immediately hacked to be an XBox Media Centre and used daily for years but never played a game on again. A PS2. And now a Wii for my kid…

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Re: Kazeta: An operating system that brings the console gaming experience of 90s

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Post by ofrzeta »

pipes wrote: post #73
112233 wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Super interested in something like this. Currently there is no easily operated audiobook player for elderly or people with severe arthritis. My eventual workaround was cheap bluetooth speaker (because expensive ones did not remember playback position inside a track) and a whole heap of super low capacity usb drives.

https://uk.yotoplay.com/yoto-mini My wife bought this. I was deeply sceptical. But it's lovely, you can put story cards in it. My 6 year old daughter loves it. And we listen to a daily yoto podcast at dinner every day. Edited, found link to version we own

Neat. I wonder if the files are stored on that card (and if yes, how) or if it works like the Toniebox where you have some kind of token that triggers a network download.

EDIT: this Reddit thread says it downloads the files. "All the audio files live in the cloud and it gets downloaded to your Yoto when you insert a card in the speaker. This means that you will need WiFi the first time you listen to a card, but should be fine without the next time you want to play the same."

https://www.reddit.com/r/YotoPlayer/comments/1grrl9u/just_le...

The cards have an NFC chip: https://support.yotoplay.com/en-US/what-are-yoto-cards-made-...

Re: Kazeta: An operating system that brings the console gaming experience of 90s

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Post by jamespo »

andrepd wrote: post #56
anal_reactor wrote: post #48

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Because it's not fucking practical. You do it once, it's cool. You do it twice, all right. You do it three times, it's annoying. Most people live in tiny apartments and are overworked, when they have a moment to play games, the "click to run" experience is vastly superior over searching for something in a mountain of plastic that could've been a chair or a plant instead. I think that what you really want is going bac…

> Because it's not fucking practical. You do it once, it's cool. You do it twice, all right. You do it three times, it's annoying. Most people live in tiny apartments and are overworked, when they have a moment to play games, the "click to run" experience is vastly superior over searching for something in a mountain of plastic that could've been a chair or a plant instead. There's already every single mainstream plat…

Yes, they seem very angry for someone living in a digital paradise

Re: Kazeta: An operating system that brings the console gaming experience of 90s

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Post by npteljes »

sgbeal wrote: post #68
npteljes wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of course. Physical media is long out. What was the last time you saw a laptop with a DVD drive? On PC especially, online is first. Games come with update managers, "launchers", and that's the absolute standard - publishers either roll their own, or submit to established ones like Steam. Micro-transactions are accepted, but far from universal. People bemoan them for some reason, but I'd say that the vast majority of…

> Micro-transactions are accepted, but far from universal. People bemoan them for some reason, ... Because, for one, with them came "Pay to Win". Nothing good comes from Pay to Win except that someone lines their pockets. A professor once told us that something like 1/3rd of people have personalities which are prone to become truly addicted to something. Microtransactions, regardless of their justification[^1], activ…

Yeah, I agree with you. I handwaved micro-transactions away too much, because of what an easy time I have with them. But I truly dislike them as well, especially for the exploitation factor.

To rephrase what I originally wanted to say: "Micro-transactions are accepted, but far from universal. Gaming got huge - even if you discard every game that has micro-transactions, the catalogue is still vast and impressive."

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