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4chan will refuse to pay daily online safety fines, lawyer tells BBC

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Re: 4chan will refuse to pay daily online safety fines, lawyer tells BBC

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Desperate politicians ,steering desperately against the right wing tide they created by showing everyone the reality of mass immigration to keep their business models and world afloat .

4chan isn't rightwing and it never was, but since 2016 and especially since 2020 the userbase has been moving to the left, because at its core 4chan is always counter culture.

Re: 4chan will refuse to pay daily online safety fines, lawyer tells BBC

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How does step 5 work? Switching DNS servers is trivial.

For you - not for 99% of the public.

In countries like Iran 80%+ of the population knows how to.

It’s all a matter of incentives.

Re: 4chan will refuse to pay daily online safety fines, lawyer tells BBC

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How does step 5 work? Switching DNS servers is trivial.

DNS poisoning and rejection of TLS handshakes based on SNI.

This is why I’m really pissed off at how long ECH has taken.

And it’s all because of corporate interests at IETF.

Re: 4chan will refuse to pay daily online safety fines, lawyer tells BBC

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UK site blocking isn't done with DNS. I think they mess with routes at the ISP level. There's not much you can do except use a VPN.

4chan uses Cloudflare. Blocking routes to Cloudflare may have an interesting impact unless CF are cooperating with the UK. 4chan could stop using CF but their moderators will have to step up their game as CF is being used to detect and block CSAM.

AFAIK Cloudflare gives 4chan a dedicated ip to simplify blocking.

Re: 4chan will refuse to pay daily online safety fines, lawyer tells BBC

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How does step 5 work? Switching DNS servers is trivial.

step 6: Block non-compliant DNS servers

Step 7: Camera AI that can catch the people scribbling “Sci-Hub is 190.115.31.218” on a bathroom wall.

Re: 4chan will refuse to pay daily online safety fines, lawyer tells BBC

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The tariff was oppressive in large part because the colonies didn't have representation in Parliament and were allowed limited (and decreasing) local governance. The Stamp, Townshend and Intolerable Acts were a whole lot more than just "we don't wanna pay taxes".

A similar argument can be made against the tariffs though. US consumers will be paying the bulk of the tariffs through price increases. We do have representatives in Congress, they just weren't the ones imposing tariffs. edit: as fun as silent down votes are, it would be interesting to hear where you might disagree

I mean yes the American people should probably consider giving our current government the same taste. But they’re not going to do that because we’ve been trained to be complacent.

Re: 4chan will refuse to pay daily online safety fines, lawyer tells BBC

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Step 1, pass law. Step 2, demand compliance. Step 3, upon not hearing of compliance, levy fines. Step 4, upon non payment of fines, declare in breach of (2). Step 5, block site from UK using DNS, in the same manner as torrent sites etc. 5 was always the goal, 2 to 4 are largely just performative.

This is the only power they have left. The UK government has lost control of what happen in the physical world on their own island so now the bureaucrats play a fantasy game where they are gonna enforce their rules and dominion in their former colonies or the digital world.

While I disapprove of what the gov is doing here, I think it’s incorrect and unhelpful to put all the blame on them. AIUI, the UK is a democracy and these policies are generally supported by the voters.

Re: 4chan will refuse to pay daily online safety fines, lawyer tells BBC

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How does step 5 work? Switching DNS servers is trivial.

DNS poisoning and rejection of TLS handshakes based on SNI.

That's one domain down. Only 3,524 domains that just cropped up yesterday to go.

Never mind the fact that doing a Google search will surface pages on various wikis, git repositories, and other sites that conveniently list all of the mirrors.

Re: 4chan will refuse to pay daily online safety fines, lawyer tells BBC

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Step 1, pass law. Step 2, demand compliance. Step 3, upon not hearing of compliance, levy fines. Step 4, upon non payment of fines, declare in breach of (2). Step 5, block site from UK using DNS, in the same manner as torrent sites etc. 5 was always the goal, 2 to 4 are largely just performative.

This is the only power they have left. The UK government has lost control of what happen in the physical world on their own island so now the bureaucrats play a fantasy game where they are gonna enforce their rules and dominion in their former colonies or the digital world.

> The UK government has lost control of what happen in the physical world on their own island so now the bureaucrats play a fantasy game...

It seems to me like said loss of control is largely the result of other actions by the same bureaucrats.

Re: 4chan will refuse to pay daily online safety fines, lawyer tells BBC

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This is the only power they have left. The UK government has lost control of what happen in the physical world on their own island so now the bureaucrats play a fantasy game where they are gonna enforce their rules and dominion in their former colonies or the digital world.

While I disapprove of what the gov is doing here, I think it’s incorrect and unhelpful to put all the blame on them. AIUI, the UK is a democracy and these policies are generally supported by the voters.

really?

From my anecdotal evidence, is that it's fucking stupid and hated

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