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Investigation into 4chan and its compliance with duties to protect its users

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Re: Investigation into 4chan and its compliance with duties to protect its users

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If they want their assets, they will have to use U.S courts to get them and U.S courts will refuse to enforce British law that violates the first amendment. It's pretty simple actually. If they had assets in Britain, then they could get to them, but they don't.

They can just treat 4chan as malware server or a drug cartel. There exist sanction mechanisms against foreign entities that do not use local law enforcement in which case opinion of US courts will be irrelevant.

But it's not, and so the treaties to which the US is party for those cases would not apply.

What sanction methods are you thinking of that could get to US citizens on US soil without US governmental consent?

Re: Investigation into 4chan and its compliance with duties to protect its users

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Why has this hysterical hyperbole become the norm when discussing the UK? It feels like a prolonged disinformation attack.

Yes, and this account is especially suspicious. Only one comment, "lived in UK", yet they make basic errors in how they use English, and "ugly"? Clearly they've never seen the English countryside.

Re: Investigation into 4chan and its compliance with duties to protect its users

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post #45

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I think you can't post on 4chan if you're using a VPN.

you can if you buy a 4chan pass with crypto

That will make blocking it fairly effective, at least if 4chan's demographic is as I remember it to be (teenagers etc).

Re: Investigation into 4chan and its compliance with duties to protect its users

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post #58

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Serving ads to UK users does not grant the UK enforcement jurisdiction over 4chan. They have no presence, assets, or agents in the UK. If the UK still attempts to issue a judgement contrary to the first amendment, the constitution in general, and/or US law, it will not be recognized by US courts. In short, the UK can kick rocks.

the UK could block access to 4chan, or block the ability for 4chan to sell ads in the UK

4chan will laugh and UK users will VPN to access 4chan and nothing of value will have been provided by this laughingstock of regulation.

Re: Investigation into 4chan and its compliance with duties to protect its users

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post #42

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To me that response seems ridiculous in several ways. If they think that UK law doesn't apply to them (which seems very credible) why react at all? Describing what Ofcom is doing, which is, as far as I can tell, just doing the job it was set up to do, as "illegal"? Suggesting that 4chan has some connection to "technology firms"? If they were going to write anything at all, how about "I fart in your general direction"…

> If they think that UK law doesn't apply to them (which seems very credible) why react at all? If I get a speeding ticket in the mail from another state I've never been to, I'm not going to ignore it, I'm going to explain to the court why it's invalid. Ignoring legal notices, even from other jurisdictions than one's own, is generally unwise (with some exceptions). So is responding with insults instead of concrete le…

You get a speeding ticket from Pakistan and you'll really go to the court in Islamabad to explain your case?

Re: Investigation into 4chan and its compliance with duties to protect its users

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They can just treat 4chan as malware server or a drug cartel. There exist sanction mechanisms against foreign entities that do not use local law enforcement in which case opinion of US courts will be irrelevant.

But it's not, and so the treaties to which the US is party for those cases would not apply. What sanction methods are you thinking of that could get to US citizens on US soil without US governmental consent?

1. Preventing those citizens from doing illegal activities on UK soil

2. Using broader spectrum of law enforcement options if those citizens arrive in the UK

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