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Re: When did AI take over Hacker News?

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Post by svara »

dgfitz wrote: post #24
greesil wrote: post #18

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It certainly looks like thinking

And magic tricks look like magic. Turns out they’re not magical. I am so floored that at least half of this community, usually skeptical to a fault, evangelizes LLMs so ardently. Truly blows my mind. I’m open to them becoming more than a statistical token predictor, and I think it would be really neat to see that happen. They’re nowhere close to anything other than a next-token-predictor.

> I’m open to them becoming more than a statistical token predictor, and I think it would be really neat to see that happen

What exactly do you mean by that? I've seen this exact comment stated many times, but I always wonder:

What limitations of AI chat bots do you currently see that are due to them using next token prediction?

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Post by nrabulinski »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #50
ryandrake wrote: post #17

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Weird what counts as "negative" on HN. Question something politely? You're being negative. Criticize something? Negative. Describe it in a way someone might interpret badly? Negative. Sometimes it seems like anything that's not breathless, unconditional praise is considered being negative and curmudgeonly. It's turning into a "positive thoughts only" zone.

I would generally file questioning and criticism under "negative". Are you interpreting "negative" as a synonym for bad or something?

I would generally file questioning and criticism under “neutral”, in some very specific cases “positive” or “negative”. Are you interpreting “negative” as “anything not strictly positive”?

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Post by [deleted] »

nutribueno wrote: post #46
jacquesm wrote: post #29

I'm more annoyed at the - clearly - AI based comments than the articles themselves. The articles are easy to ignore, the comments are a lot harder. In light of that I'd still love it if HN created an ignore feature, I think the community is large enough now that that makes complete sense. It would certainly improve my HN experience.

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Post by kzs0 »

mrexroad wrote: post #48
ryandrake wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Weird what counts as "negative" on HN. Question something politely? You're being negative. Criticize something? Negative. Describe it in a way someone might interpret badly? Negative. Sometimes it seems like anything that's not breathless, unconditional praise is considered being negative and curmudgeonly. It's turning into a "positive thoughts only" zone.

“If you enjoyed the {service}, please rate me 5-Stars, anything less is considered negative poor service” Not sure if part of a broader trend, or a simply reflection of it, but when mentoring/coaching middle and high school aged kids, I’m finding they struggle to accept feedback in anyway other than “I failed.” A few years back, the same age group was more likely to accept and view feedback as an opportunity so long…

I’m relatively young and I noticed this trend in myself and my peers. I wonder if it has to do with the increasingly true fact that if you’re not one of the “best” you’ll be lucky to have some amount of financial stability. The stakes for kids have never been higher, and the pressure for perfection from their parents has similarly never been higher.

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Post by jacquesm »

schappim wrote: post #59
jacquesm wrote: post #52

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No, you didn't see anything. I've been writing like that since very long before LLMs did it, mostly because I'm considerably older than that. I'm sure if you go back to 2008, the first year that I participated in HN you'll find plenty of examples.

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You've been here since 2010 and you still don't know you can't downvote someone downthread from you?

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Post by sitkack »

snowwrestler wrote: post #21

Would be fun to do similar analysis for HN front page trends that peaked and then declined, like cryptocurrency, NFTs, Web3, and self-driving cars. And actually it’s funny: self-driving cars and cryptocurrency are continuing to advance dramatically in real life but there are hardly any front page HN stories about them anymore. Shows the power of AI as a topic that crowds out others. And possibly reveals the trendy na…

You forgot Erlang and Poker bots.

Re: When did AI take over Hacker News?

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Post by lm28469 »

mikert89 wrote: post #10

its in the running for the biggest technological change maybe in the last 100 years? whats so confusing about this, thinking machines have been invented

Bigger than internet and computers? Lmao, I don't even know if I'd place it as high as the GPS.

Some people are terminally online and it really shows...

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Post by SamInTheShell »

It's just a fad. It'll die down eventually like everything else does. Don't see much talk about cryptocurrency lately (not that I care to see more, the technology choices are cool though).

Might take a long while for everyone to get on the same page about where these inference engines really work and don't work. People are still testing stuff out, haven't been in the know for long, and some fear the failure of job markets.

There is a lot of FUD to sift through.

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Post by sitkack »

greesil wrote: post #55
dgfitz wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And magic tricks look like magic. Turns out they’re not magical. I am so floored that at least half of this community, usually skeptical to a fault, evangelizes LLMs so ardently. Truly blows my mind. I’m open to them becoming more than a statistical token predictor, and I think it would be really neat to see that happen. They’re nowhere close to anything other than a next-token-predictor.

Maybe thinking needs a Turing test. If nobody can tell the difference between this and actual thinking then it's actually thinking. /s, or is it?

If I order Chinese takeout, but it gets made by a restaurant that doesn't know what Chinese food tastes like, then is that food really Chinese takeout?
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