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Passion over Profits

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Re: Passion over Profits

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My dad was a professor in his later years. He once had a conversation with a secretary (back before computers replaced them) who complained: "garbage men get paid more than me!" My dad replied "why don't you quit and become a garbage collector?" She angrily replied "but that's a filthy disgusting job!"

More apt advice would have been to unionize. Garbage collectors don't get paid better because the job is dirty.

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Re: Passion over Profits

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> Making more money allows you to donate more to organizations that hire full time staff to achieve your broader goals for the world. > More money means more options, more wiggle room. Generally while having less time for yourself and suffering more. That's brilliant. I'll take a dozen. > Also, to me personally, the choice between hybrid and full remote isn’t even a choice. Exactly . Being able (have) to commute to a…

>Generally while having less time for yourself and suffering more. The article is talking about a fusion startup that pays less vs a "normal sort of business" that pays more. I would expect the startup to require more work. And other example is videogame development. Videogame developers get paid less and have to work more compared to other software developers.

Working in an area you're passionate about doesn't mean you have to work more, even if it's a startup.

I know people who work in startups do great work, but no overtime, and finish what they have to finish on time. On the other hand, I have seen established companies which expect you do overtime with no overpay, because they pay you more than competitors already.

While I'm not working in a startup, I turned down numerous job offers just because I love my job and money is not my primary motivation, like the author of the post. I also did my share of overtime and oft-glorified all-nighters for a long period of time. On the other hand, I'll argue that all-nighters are unnecessary most of the time, and a good indicator of mismanagement.

Game developers love their job and I respect them with all my being, but they are exploited far too often. This still rings in my head from time to time: https://ea-spouse.livejournal.com/274.html

Re: Passion over Profits

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I'd take the people over the work anytime, the best places i've ever worked at are the places where the people are great to work with, even the slog/bureaucratic work is still good when you have people that are great at what they do and are fun to be around. Varies a lot where you are on your career as well, i'd never take a job that pays less or is "startupy" at this point in my life, i'm here to make money now and…

> And don't forget sentiments don't pay bills, money does.

As a somewhat sentimental person at times, I still really appreciate this comment. I mostly agree with it, it makes sense.

I like your whole comment, it's insightful from where I'm at (and I have enoug life experience to tell it's insightful).

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