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U.S. alcohol consumption drops to a 90-year low, new poll finds

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Re: U.S. alcohol consumption drops to a 90-year low, new poll finds

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Hence the virginity rates. Weed replacing alcohol is a tragedy. Lonelier people in healthier bodies with rotting brains.

Alcohol causes more brain damage than cannabis, if that's what you are talking about. And I doubt lowering inhibitions so that people have sex they wouldn't normally have had seems... Bad. On the other hand, if this was supposed to be funny, carry on!

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Anecdotally it seems like alcohol is being replaced with weed or other things. But it doesn't bode well for the future of mental health if social drinking is being replaced with solo drug use or just solo everything.

if . Other drug use can be just as social as alcohol consumption.

And also, a decent chunk of alcohol consumption must be solo? I'd bet alcohol is broadly more social, but I would also wonder if that would change if more public gathering places served weed in some form.

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Why even post this?

Because I have never had the desire to buy alcohol since there is a superior alternative. I am providing context on why me and many others are contributing to the fall of the statistic.

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Casinos are also seeing a similar drop

I think it’s also the lack of disposable income to gamble with.

“Why gamble in Vegas, when you can do it from your phone in NYC?”.

There’s a significant devaluation of “in-person fun”, and it’s sad to see.

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I do actually believe that weed replacing alcohol as drug of choice is destroying the social fabric of the society. What's so controversial about it? What is the last time when a joint got someone laid or made friends?

Lots of people are able to get laid and make friends without alcohol. If there is a person who can't, I think it says more about them than about alcohol.

Lot's of people get white collar jobs without going to college, this doesn't mean that college doesn't help.

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Quite to the contrary. A big part of alcohol use is group pressure. Much better for everyone if people enjoy their drugs alone.

The entire upside of alcohol use is social lubrication. Frankly, I think our society could benefit from a bit more peer pressure.

You can get the social upside with adaptogens which are increasingly showing up in canned drinks or drinking kava with friends. Alcohol doesn't have a monopoly on that.

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I wonder how much of that is honesty in reporting? No doubt the wave of legalization has increase usage massively, but I sure as shit wouldn't have told a random poll in the 2010s about my illegal marijuana use. I didn't even tell my doctor for fear of it ending up in a chart somewhere.

No doubt it is not a 100% accurate poll. But hard to think it hasn't gone up? If only from the legal sales numbers. More, you'd be surprised at how many people would have told pollsters, even in 2010s, that they were doing things like this.

> you'd be surprised at how many people would have told pollsters

Yeah, when my son was in middle school, they ran a poll. I was surprised by how many kids at his school had artificial limbs. Terrible carnage, just terrible.

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Such a sad development, Young people need to drink more and socialize. No wonder the virginity rates are skyrocketing. You don't get into situations by getting stoned at home. Sure it is bad for your body but when used in moderation the benefits are much much more than that risk. What a scam the weed culture is. Maybe we should ban it again together with the social media to save the birth rates and the society in gen…

Yup. Hitchens was pretty prophetic about this when he wrote his "in defense of teenage drinking" piece 30 years ago.

Now you have an entire generation of permanently in therapy pill poppers or weed smoking loners. An entire cohort of Biedermeiers, bores and shut-ins. Here in Germany where the drinking age is 16 it was always funny to see US expats let loose when they realized that teenagers can legally drink and don't need to do it secretly

These days you have people in their mid 20s watching 10 hours per day of right-wing influencers online because they can't talk to women instead of going to a party and getting drunk and laid. It's honestly no surprise the world's craziest autocrats tend to be teetotalers, it's how you breed yourself an army of frustrated followers

Re: U.S. alcohol consumption drops to a 90-year low, new poll finds

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There was a pretty good Kurzgesagt video posted earlier today on alcohol in general: https://youtu.be/aOwmt39L2IQ The shift in perception of alcohol is certainly a good sign. Even outside of the health benefits, a night out at the bar is expensive now (at least on the East Coast) and honestly speaking other drugs are simply more cost-effective. I still have the occasional cocktail when going out with friends but now…

Substance use is dropping precipitously, because partying and socialization writ large are dropping. The people who party are still drinking, they're really not the ones driving these decreases. Alcohol's primary purpose in our society is as a social lubricant. It both lowers inhibitions, and in the expectation of its doing so creates spaces with freer acceptable behavior. Cannabis doesn't currently fill that niche,…

Well, with edibles, mints, drinks - does there need to be? There are lounges opening in some cities like Oakland, SF but that's an emerging thing depending on openness to changing zoning.
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