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Re: Perplexity offers to buy Google Chrome for $34.5B

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What's wrong with Firefox? I've used it as my main browser for the best part of 20 years now and have no issues. The last time I used Chrome there were ads all over the place because the ad blockers don't work properly anymore (I'm guessing because of manifest v3)

> What's wrong with Firefox Speed and bugs. My Firefox crashes on some sites, like 9gag. And it's very slow to load websites. The latest version of Chrome loads websites instantly! Firefox takes a few seconds!

That can’t possibly be true, Firefox uses rust and rust is blazingly fast.

Re: Perplexity offers to buy Google Chrome for $34.5B

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I dislike tech monopolies but Chrome leaving Google would be most terrible thing ever, security wise. Google has become the benevolent dictator of the web, if you like it or not. We get secure browsers, performance improvements, stable implementations at the cost of one bad feature being shipped a year (like Manifest V3). Mozilla/FOSS community has fucked up Firefox, big time, which is not even their fault as they ca…

Firefox: address bar is 2px too high? Garbage. Chrome: eavesdrops on everything? This is fine.

User priorities are what’s really broken.

Re: Perplexity offers to buy Google Chrome for $34.5B

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This is clearly a PR stunt. Perplexity knows Google would not sell Chrome, it is the holy grail of their ads strategy and would cripple their moat.

You may be unaware that Google has lost an antitrust suit and that the DOJ has asked the courts to require Google sell Chrome. Whether or not Google can bribe their way out of it is yet to be seen, but they may not have a choice, so it's a pretty big one time opportunity.

Yes and the courts are idiots. Why buy Chrome when you they can get Chromium for free? What good is Chrome outside of Google?

Not to mention what does that mean for ChromeOS?

Re: Perplexity offers to buy Google Chrome for $34.5B

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I dislike tech monopolies but Chrome leaving Google would be most terrible thing ever, security wise. Google has become the benevolent dictator of the web, if you like it or not. We get secure browsers, performance improvements, stable implementations at the cost of one bad feature being shipped a year (like Manifest V3). Mozilla/FOSS community has fucked up Firefox, big time, which is not even their fault as they ca…

"benevolent" is an interesting word choice. I wouldn't consider them having positive intentions for users, but rather focused on financial gain and market power at any cost. Though if Apple owned would be anti non Apple customers, if most other companies owned would end up monetizing it as well but without the resources of Google. Or if government owned would remain stagnant. So not sure what the right path is.

Re: Perplexity offers to buy Google Chrome for $34.5B

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What's wrong with Firefox? I've used it as my main browser for the best part of 20 years now and have no issues. The last time I used Chrome there were ads all over the place because the ad blockers don't work properly anymore (I'm guessing because of manifest v3)

as a long time user of firefox (also around 20years). it still has many pain points especially if you're a tab hoarder. try closing a window with 400 mid to heavy tabs and see how long it takes, you can select the tabs individually and they will close way faster. (even on the best PC you can find) this is niche but I wish there was a watered down /minimalist version that dropped, bookmarks, history, sqlite (I know HN…

I currently have 8260 tabs open across 9 windows, and that's just on my main laptop, across all devices I probably have over 20k tabs, and I don't really have any issues regarding tab management.

I used to have issues with Firefox randomly nuking my state on load and having to restore backups, but now I use Tab Session Manager for that and never think twice about it.

Re: Perplexity offers to buy Google Chrome for $34.5B

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I dislike tech monopolies but Chrome leaving Google would be most terrible thing ever, security wise. Google has become the benevolent dictator of the web, if you like it or not. We get secure browsers, performance improvements, stable implementations at the cost of one bad feature being shipped a year (like Manifest V3). Mozilla/FOSS community has fucked up Firefox, big time, which is not even their fault as they ca…

I couldn't disagree more. The problems of Google effectively controlling the “open web” take time to become evident but are starting to show.

I have no issues with them continuing to participate, but not with the level of control they have at the moment.

Re: Perplexity offers to buy Google Chrome for $34.5B

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None of these is true. Either you're lying or somthing is wrong with your PC or OS

I use FF as well and it's extremely non-performant on MacOS. It quickly eats up much of the power usage and a number of websites (especially MS Office/365 related sites) don't render or work correctly. The former is a FF issue, but the latter is most likely a website to website issue, as most web devs tend to optimize for the Chromium experience.

Seems like a MacOS issue rather. I've been using Firefox on Debian for 15 years and never had this issue (except a borked release here and there)

Re: Perplexity offers to buy Google Chrome for $34.5B

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This is clearly a PR stunt. Perplexity knows Google would not sell Chrome, it is the holy grail of their ads strategy and would cripple their moat.

You may be unaware that Google has lost an antitrust suit and that the DOJ has asked the courts to require Google sell Chrome. Whether or not Google can bribe their way out of it is yet to be seen, but they may not have a choice, so it's a pretty big one time opportunity.

Also likely a political PR stunt.

Re: Perplexity offers to buy Google Chrome for $34.5B

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I use FF as well and it's extremely non-performant on MacOS. It quickly eats up much of the power usage and a number of websites (especially MS Office/365 related sites) don't render or work correctly. The former is a FF issue, but the latter is most likely a website to website issue, as most web devs tend to optimize for the Chromium experience.

Seems like a MacOS issue rather. I've been using Firefox on Debian for 15 years and never had this issue (except a borked release here and there)

FF for Linux will have a different team from FF for MacOS or FF for Windows.

Given how different each OS is, they will have different internals.

You don't see the same kind of performance degradation on other browsers on MacOS like Chrome, Safari, Orion, Brave, Arc, or even Edge.

It's a uniquely FF issue, but I'll deal with it as long as uBO is blocked on Chrome.

And saying "migrate to $myFlavorOfLinux" is an unrealistic answer for most users, because even though Linux has progressed leaps and bounds, it's user experience still requires a fairly technical background so that limits personal usage, and isn't offered as a default OS option by most IT teams who give corporate laptops.

Linux as a personal OS will be limited as long as a Linux project that is actually lead by an actual UX Designer instead of an OS enthusiast doesn't arise. Elementary OS shows some promise, but it still has UX and workflow issues that deserve attention from a professional UX designer instead of OS devs alone.

The various Android flavors are a great example of how if you put UX minds to work on an OSS project, you can end up with a quality user experience, but most Android projects also enforce a common design language and support non-CLI based user workflows, whereas most Linux oriented projects overindex on technical users, leading to the chicken-and-egg situation for Linux adoption.

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