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Perplexity Makes Longshot $34.5B Offer for Chrome

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Re: Perplexity Makes Longshot $34.5B Offer for Chrome

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Anyone here use perplexity? I’ve tried numerous times, but once you get over the flashy UI, it feels like a lot of fluff.

I am a pretty regular user - I’ve found it to be helpful, and a better way of searching the web for answers.

But I also haven’t used Google in years (I switched to other search engines) so their AI might be just as good.

Perplexity also has overlap with ChatGPT’s web search, but Perplexity is faster for me.

Re: Perplexity Makes Longshot $34.5B Offer for Chrome

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"The AI says I should raise $34.5 billion from investors and make a bid for Google's browser." I wonder if they've thought about what it'll cost to keep Chrome dominant as a platform including the effort that goes into securing it on an ongoing basis!

I was thinking the same thing. If they have to raise money to buy Chrome, can they afford the development teams?

Re: Perplexity Makes Longshot $34.5B Offer for Chrome

#73

If there was any company that I would trust less with a web browser (and related user data) than an ad-tech company, it would be an AI company.

Basically anyone who would want to make an offer for Chrome should be banned for purchasing it. It's not a profitable business to be in, and Perplexity would just do the exact same thing that might force Google to sell Chrome. The only companies that should be allowed to buy Chrome are non-profits and companies promising to sell it for a fee (preferably not a subscription).

> The only companies that should be allowed to buy Chrome are non-profits and companies promising to sell it for a fee (preferably not a subscription).

I am not sure if a single fee works. Browsers are too important and hard to maintain. What if people had paid single fee for Chrome 15 years ago for non-profit?

Re: Perplexity Makes Longshot $34.5B Offer for Chrome

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NAL, but IMO it's legal & political maneuvering. DOJ asked Judge Mehta to consider forcing divestiture of Chrome after Google was found to illegally maintained a search monopoly. If it's determined the divestiture is feasible, especially with an existing more-or-less "credible buyer" at the ready, it looks executable. The offer is basically crafted to fit the DOJ/regulator concerns, ie everything is build around "lea…

Unless Google is banned from providing a browser entirely, they'll just re-fork Webkit and release another browser, and it will very quickly replace Chrome usage. Especially on Android - which is the most used OS in the world. It seems strange to ban Google from offering a Search Engine, when all the other big tech companies can get into any field just fine, but the legal system is primarily a weapon for corruption t…

They lose the brand so that's the most important part. And chrome has far divestd from chromium in all the important ways Google makes money. It'd take years for chrome to to lose its marketshare even if Google had a chrome clone made tomorrow.

If anything, they may try to start from scratch, like with Fuschia. In which case the anti-trust was a success in making companies compete again.

Re: Perplexity Makes Longshot $34.5B Offer for Chrome

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've tried to use Perplexity after reading all of the hype, seeing it praised by so many VCs, and seeing it appear on so many different lists of essential AI tools. Yet most of my Perplexity queries have produced poor results. It always feels like they optimized for minimizing latency and producing output that feels good instead of doing actual research. Most of the time it feels like the same quality of results I'd…

Really? I’ve found it to be a fantastic product, and a part of my daily use. It’s reduced my legacy search engine usage significantly. Is there a better product? ChatGPT with web search enabled? I guess Google’s AI is probably good, I just haven’t used Google in a while as I switched to DuckDuckGo.

I second this. Perplexity is the only AI I actually pay for. It absolutely excels at the kind of deep search into narrow domains where expertise is concentrated in forums and specialist sites. Things like mechanical work on obscure classic vehicles, vacuum tube electronics, company tax arcana. It's also very very good at those questions you sometimes wake up with, where something happened in the news six months ago and you think, "Whatever came of that?"

Its deep research and Pro modes are great at synthesizing thorough briefings on complex topics too, to get up to speed on a new client or job responsibility for example.

It's not a chatbot for me, it's a brilliant, tireless little research minion.

As always with any LLM you should double-check its final, specific answers. It does occasionally hallucinate when information simply isn't available. Your research minion is just that - a minion, you have to have the context. It's not a teacher or guru.

EDIT: the bottom line is, it came along at exactly the right time for me. Google's search results are pages of ads, and DuckDuckGo insists on showing page after page of content-farm blogspam for the types of topics I search for. It cuts right through all that crap for me.

Re: Perplexity Makes Longshot $34.5B Offer for Chrome

#76

If there was any company that I would trust less with a web browser (and related user data) than an ad-tech company, it would be an AI company.

Isn't Perplexity the AI company that has been accused of ignoring robots.txt and requests not to data harvest?

Re: Perplexity Makes Longshot $34.5B Offer for Chrome

#77

These marketing stunts from Perplexity made me stop using their product. For me, it's an indicator that they don't believe in their product, so there's no reason for me to do it either.

Which web search do you prefer over perplexity?

self-hosted SearXNG [1] pointed at the lot of them. All the results, none of the tracking and some insight in which subjects are suppressed by which search engine.

[1] https://docs.searxng.org/

Re: Perplexity Makes Longshot $34.5B Offer for Chrome

#78

Anyone here use perplexity? I’ve tried numerous times, but once you get over the flashy UI, it feels like a lot of fluff.

I find myself using it more and more as time goes on. I got one of those year long deals so I'm not really too invested in the cost but the overall experience is not bad.

You get several models you can use (albeit they're not quite as powerful as their branded versions directly). you can setup projects and most other features you come to expect.

They do a good job with search though which is kind of their core value prop. They summarize well, cite sources, and have largely been pretty accurate with their findings. Being able to start a research task and provide more info and context while it is running is nice too for that "oh, I forgot about this!" moment.

With the pro sub you also get $5 in api credits a month so there's that.

Re: Perplexity Makes Longshot $34.5B Offer for Chrome

#79

These marketing stunts from Perplexity made me stop using their product. For me, it's an indicator that they don't believe in their product, so there's no reason for me to do it either.

I've tried to use Perplexity after reading all of the hype, seeing it praised by so many VCs, and seeing it appear on so many different lists of essential AI tools. Yet most of my Perplexity queries have produced poor results. It always feels like they optimized for minimizing latency and producing output that feels good instead of doing actual research. Most of the time it feels like the same quality of results I'd…

Perplexity had a business case for one hot minute there, before OAI, Anthropic and Google all added search to their models, but now that have it, Perplexity doesn’t have a reason to exist anymore. They’re kind of the poster child for “if you don’t have your own model, you’re basically VC-funded market fit research for the companies which do, who will go on to copy and crush you.”

Re: Perplexity Makes Longshot $34.5B Offer for Chrome

#80

A $14B to $18B dollar company offering an all stock deal worth about 2x as much as its market cap. This isn't a serious offer, its a publicity stunt. Google would effectively own the entire company short of some mind blowing multiple expansion here. Watch for Perplexity to be raising money in the next 6 months. But given this stunt it looks like they think their growth is over and they've peaked as a company.

My exact thoughts as well, this “offer” might as well be a cry for Google to take a controlling interest in Perplexity lol
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