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Project Hyperion: Interstellar ship design competition

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Re: Project Hyperion: Interstellar ship design competition

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Post by Apocryphon »

jvanderbot wrote: post #50
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #29

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> we are never leaving this solar system unless we discover some new physics to get around our speed limitations The winning proposal coasts at 0.01c. Propulsion systems--not the speed of light--and thus engineering, not phsyics, are the relevant limitors.

We're one good new religion away from colonizing the solar system. Cathedrals were built over 100s of years. Imaging just living in a massive one and your whole holy purpose is to survive and thrive and spread. It's entirely reasonable we'd have the will to make it happen, and pretty reasonable we'd be able to build it with planet scale effort, but sadly quite difficult to imagine it surviving even dust impacts for 4…

I've played that game: http://irontowerstudio.com/colony-ship-news

Re: Project Hyperion: Interstellar ship design competition

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Post by esafak »

hermitcrab wrote: post #30
moonlion_eth wrote: post #11

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bruh noah did it with 2

There were 8: Noah, his wife, their three sons (Shem, Ham, and Japheth), and their three wives. If so, there must have been a whole of inbreeding in later generations. Aside: The biblical story of the Ark and the flood in ripped off wholesale from Sumerian and Akkadian narratives.

You mean God sent word to the Sumerians and Akkadians !

Re: Project Hyperion: Interstellar ship design competition

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Post by kibwen »

silverquiet wrote: post #49
hermitcrab wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the problems would come in the 2nd generation, who didn't choose to go on the mission.

Heidegger would say that all humans are thrown into existence and into circumstances that they did not choose. In some sense, we are currently on a large spaceship, and I assume some mission chosen for us by our predecessors.

"This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."

Re: Project Hyperion: Interstellar ship design competition

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Post by Edmond »

Anyone enamoured with this type of stuff should watch the movie Aniara. It's a great movie that illustrates what a delusional fantasy interstellar space travel of this form is.

I am a big space exploration fan, but beyond our solar system, it's probably best thought of as a fantasy entertainment genre.

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Post by Ancalagon »

TuringNYC wrote: post #70
hermitcrab wrote: post #32

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A large spacecraft doesn't have to spin very fast to simulate 1g. So probably not.

I was always curious about this. In some of the star wars movies, you dont see any spin, yet they are not floating around (e.g., notice how Orson Krennic has a backdrop of a planet, isnt floating, yet the planet isnt spinning https://allfortheboys.com/ben-mendelsohn/ ) I know Interstellar did not ignore the spin, but do movies like Star Wars just ignore the entire concept?

I think they have artificial gravity in star wars iirc

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Post by yincrash »

Aaargh20318 wrote: post #45
poisonborz wrote: post #13

I doubt the human psyche is capable of such a voyage while being awake the whole time. Even with all the toys and biomes, life will get boring and pointless fast, producing unfulfilled needs, disorder, conflict and revolt. People can't be ants in a colony working for such a narrowly defined goal through a lifetime, especially not multi-generationally. Our existence is based on constant questioning and revolutions. A…

Particles are indistinguishable, this means that the specific particles that make up a physical object (like a human) are not important, you could replace all of them with different particles, ship of Theseus style, and it would be the same object. What makes an object unique then is the specific configuration of the particles that make up that object. This configuration is a form of information. Fortunately, we alre…

There's a reason Star Trek teleporters have a "Heisenberg compensator", we cannot record both the position and momentum of a particle precisely. Scanning the "configuration of particles" to transmit to this theoretical printer is the first impossible roadblock. The human you scan can never be the same exact person printed.
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