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Philz Coffee close to closing deal to sell to private equity firm for $145M

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Re: Philz Coffee close to closing deal to sell to private equity firm for $145M

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We have many more good locally owned coffee shops today.

It's only a matter of time until those locally owned coffee shops become popular, expand, over-expand, then get acquired.

That is overly pessimistic. Plenty of businesses don't ever do what you suggest.

Re: Philz Coffee close to closing deal to sell to private equity firm for $145M

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Investing in shares is, like most things in life, a task that requires some skill and understanding. Hence the concept of accredited investors. When you're swimming with the big boys, it pays to know the rules of the game. Unfortunately employees getting or buying shares from their employer have little to no investment skills. Yes, it's possible for these shares to be worth something, but if the company fails, they'r…

The concept of accredited investors is nothing of the sort. It's an arbitrary income / net worth threshold.

It’s a check for ‘can this person handle losing a large chunk of money when they get swindled by management after investing in a private company’, which will almost certainly be the case if you don’t have more money to kick in every round (dilution) or don’t own preferred shares, or any number of other tricks. Google or Meta recently ‘acquired’ a company by offering them salary packages that matched the equity they had in their company and then skipped buying the company so anyone with shares left got screwed over when the husk was sold for 1% of its prior value, since it was almost worthless once all the talent was acquihired.

Re: Philz Coffee close to closing deal to sell to private equity firm for $145M

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I agree. No idea why Starbucks, McDonalds, Zara etc. came out shouting support for Israel out of nowhere. Requiring a boycott from sane people.

Is that a thing that happened?

McDonalds did not officially endorse Israel. The franchise owner of all the McDonalds restaurants in Israel did. McDonalds corporate did not approve the message although it seems like it did not really matter what the facts were. (https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/apr/05/mcdonalds-i...)

Re: Philz Coffee close to closing deal to sell to private equity firm for $145M

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> “All Common Stock will be canceled for no consideration and all Options will be canceled and extinguished for no consideration” How is this even legal?

The common stockholders have voting rights...

Probably also drag along terms which render said rights broadly ineffective

Re: Philz Coffee close to closing deal to sell to private equity firm for $145M

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> Dalla worked at Philz for nine years until last year, when he was laid off. He said that many longtime employees left around the same time as the company’s culture shifted to a more profit-driven, corporate culture. > On his way out, he said that CEO Sadarangani urged him against exercising his stock options — options that will now, barring changes to the current deal, be worth nothing. “I always assumed they would…

There is a bunch of shady and unfair behavior by the acquirers here, but yeah, that line doesn’t make sense. If the options are worthless, then exercising them would have been a waste of money - the CEO was helping this person out! I think this article was written by someone with lots of outrage and little actual understanding.

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Re: Philz Coffee close to closing deal to sell to private equity firm for $145M

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Speaking as a coffee drinker, I saw Philz distribute through retail stores far away from SF, and expect enshittification (figuratively) in the future.

For other Tesora addicts, the house brand Italian roast at Safeway/Von's is very similar and a lot cheaper.

I can't imagine what changes are coming. Probably Son of Philz AItalian Roast.

It was fun and flavorful.

Re: Philz Coffee close to closing deal to sell to private equity firm for $145M

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"In a liquidation, common stockholders receive whatever assets remain after creditors, bondholders, and preferred stockholders are paid." Coupled with what sounds like an already bad financial state of the company... I'm not claiming no foul play, but it looks like there is a reasonable avenue for what is happening.

Yet the board and CEO will get paid... So they're not that out of money. Just out of money enough to screw everybody but themselves. > Philz board members, which include former CEO Phil Jaber and his son, Jacob Jaber; representatives from investment firms Summit Partners and TPG Growth; and CEO Mahesh Sadarangani will receive payouts or bonuses from the deal.

Salary takes preference over equity and debt in all liquidations.

Re: Philz Coffee close to closing deal to sell to private equity firm for $145M

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The article implies that it's not a liquidation or bankruptcy, though, just a sale. I don't know how you can buy a company without buying its stock from the shareholders, given that they are the owners of the company, but there must be some special circumstance that's not mentioned in the article.

The article flat out states that they ran out of money. That's the special circumstance. Basically this was a fire sale.

If there was no money (aka bankruptcy) then board, top management and other investors would also not get anything (divide remaining assets between all stock). But this is different, this is sale, not bankruptcy. Some people get money while common stock owners (aka company owners) don't get anything.

Re: Philz Coffee close to closing deal to sell to private equity firm for $145M

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"In a liquidation, common stockholders receive whatever assets remain after creditors, bondholders, and preferred stockholders are paid." Coupled with what sounds like an already bad financial state of the company... I'm not claiming no foul play, but it looks like there is a reasonable avenue for what is happening.

Investing in shares is, like most things in life, a task that requires some skill and understanding. Hence the concept of accredited investors. When you're swimming with the big boys, it pays to know the rules of the game. Unfortunately employees getting or buying shares from their employer have little to no investment skills. Yes, it's possible for these shares to be worth something, but if the company fails, they'r…

Disagree. I exercised some small amount of options long time ago (like 10+ years). Never called, never cared, also thought it's long gone. But recently got a nice check from them out of the blue when they got sold to a larger company. Even though all the people I worked with long gone as well, including CEO. I checked the numbers, all seems correct.
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