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Meta's Vision for Superintelligence
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Re: Meta's Vision for Superintelligence
#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
Does the average American worker today spend a ton of time in productivity software? "Average?" No. But many millions of people, yes. The majority of people in my company spend their day tied to Microsoft Office. Which bring its own problems when managers don't understand that building a computer program isn't the same speed, complexity, and skill level as making a PowerPoint presentation.
I know your comparison to PowerPoint was probably not meant to be taken literally, but I'll just add that a good presentation takes just as much time, skill and effort as any creative endeavour (including programming).
I’d love to see a PowerPoint presentation that has a million man-hours of work in it. Oh, never mind, I probably have.
But seriously, this comment can easily be true, and if it is , then it is an excellent example of a human endeavour that we invented to improve efficiency but has become a bottomless sink of talent, effort, and cost directed away from generating any value whatsoever.
I have never seen a presentation that couldn’t have been done just as well without the use of a computer., except to demonstrate things that are computer related.
Presentations are a great example of an activity that has become an end unto itself that delivers no value, and only serves as a kind of internal preening behaviour, signalling a persons value to the organisation without actually delivering any.
Re: Meta's Vision for Superintelligence
#73This stuff is naive. There's a bunch of people who want a large income (wealth) disparity, and they will fight to preserve it unless you give them an equivalent station in the 'new world'. But you will still need to sustain ex-workers if they can't get normal jobs, and those same people at the top will not tolerate the taxes required to sustain a basic level of living for much wider population. They already can't tol…
>There's a bunch of people who want a large income (wealth) disparity Apart form you of course, so I'm sure you'd be ok if the government would tax your higher than average tech wage till your take home pay would match that of a train conductor's or bus driver's, like in Western Europe, and therefore fix the wage gap you hate so much. Would you like that solution? Caption this: It's only a problem when the people who…
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Re: Meta's Vision for Superintelligence
#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
>There's a bunch of people who want a large income (wealth) disparity Apart form you of course, so I'm sure you'd be ok if the government would tax your higher than average tech wage till your take home pay would match that of a train conductor's or bus driver's, like in Western Europe, and therefore fix the wage gap you hate so much. Would you like that solution? Caption this: It's only a problem when the people who…
Unless you are yourself a robber baron the likes of Zuck, you should look up this little concept called "class solidarity."
I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy here of people seeing greed only in those with more income than them but never in themselves when they accept those generous big-tech, big-finance, big-ad-tech, big-4, big-pharma compensation packages from the evil robber barons they claim to hate. If you hate them so much why are you taking their blood money?
Also, there is no class solidarity the way you imagine it in your fantasy, because to the average person on the street putting the fries in the bag ac McD, or stacking shelves at Walmart, or tearing down the roads with a jackhammer in the summer heat, the big-tech worker is closer to the robber baron Zuckerberg, than they are to them. So when you get laid off from your big-tech job, they won't have solidarity for you, they might even break a smile, as those spoiled pampered tech worker are brought down from their Kombucha sipping ivory towers.
Class solidarity, as seen applied in Europe, means bringing the income of tech workers in line with unskilled labor till everyone is equally lower-middle class, not touching the super wealthy robber barons to contribute more to society, because no society does that, that's just fantasy. Look at the owner of IKEA's complex tax avoidance scheme: https://www.greens-efa.eu/legacy/fileadmin/dam/Documents/Stu... Do you think he has any class solidarity? He has more in common with Musk, Zuckerberg or XiJinping than with his average Swedish countrymen.
The more class solidarity you wish and vote for, the higher the tax burdens will be on skilled and ambitious middle class workers and small businesses, not on Zuckerberg or the elites with inherited wealth. So be careful what you wish for. My country already went through communism once and everyone had enough of "class solidarity" for the next lifetime, but there's always some westerners out there who cling on that "this time it will be different". Sure buddy.
Re: Meta's Vision for Superintelligence
#75Meta has a lot of users (for better or worse). AFAIK they give away all the current “AI” features for free (via ads) like all of their products, right? That must take an enormous amount of compute to be able to offer all of their users the ability to generate AI Slop at any time… there’s no way they can continue to do that with anything close to a “super intelligence”, right? Do they have that much faith in ads?
Re: Meta's Vision for Superintelligence
#76If trends continue, then you'd expect people to spend less time in productivity software, and more time creating and connecting. Does the average American worker today spend a ton of time in productivity software? I know and Zuckerberg surely knows the impact on labor will be much more pervasive than that, so it seems like an odd way to frame the future.
more time creating Considering that the most common use for "AI" is to take jobs away from creators like artists, musicians, illustrators, writers, and such, I find this statement hard to believe. So far, all I've seen is AI taking money away from the least-paid workers (artists, et.al.) and giving it to tech billionaires.
But people have to keep creating to feed the AI! AI is extractive, not creative, so without people toiling away and adding actual creativity, current paradigm AI will become increasingly derivative and uninspiring… so the obvious answer is to put people into nutrient filled VR pods so they can imagine actually new things to power the AI hive-mind.
Re: Meta's Vision for Superintelligence
#77why does this page have the same look as ssi.inc? feels kind of strange to copy that of all things?
its a stylistic choice, it’s a statement: content is all that matters. Brutalist websites have been around for a long time. https://motherfuckingwebsite.com/
im quite of aware of what it is. this isn't just "make a brutalist website" it is "make a website that looks like ssi when meta has multiple platforms and means to publish the same message." it is much more intentional than "lets make it look like web 1"
Re: Meta's Vision for Superintelligence
#78This stuff is naive. There's a bunch of people who want a large income (wealth) disparity, and they will fight to preserve it unless you give them an equivalent station in the 'new world'. But you will still need to sustain ex-workers if they can't get normal jobs, and those same people at the top will not tolerate the taxes required to sustain a basic level of living for much wider population. They already can't tol…
>There's a bunch of people who want a large income (wealth) disparity Apart form you of course, so I'm sure you'd be ok if the government would tax your higher than average tech wage till your take home pay would match that of a train conductor's or bus driver's, like in Western Europe, and therefore fix the wage gap you hate so much. Would you like that solution? Caption this: It's only a problem when the people who…
Sure I would, as long as they tax billionaires even more and guarantee it. I do CRUD app development, I'm not even responsible for anything as potentially dangerous as a train. Superintelligence would very likely take my job anyway, so I won't get taxed for long.
Re: Meta's Vision for Superintelligence
#79It is possible to hold the following two statements to be true without risk of contradiction: 1. LLMs and "AI" broadly can become a very useful and powerful technology that can have a transformative effect on industry and so on. 2. Talk of "superintelligence" is total horseshit.
I’m curious how many people are actually outside of this, most debates seem to boil down to, “ AI isn’t bullshit I’ve used it and I find I useful” and my argument as a skeptic isn’t that it doesn’t do the things people clearly see it does, nor that those use cases will improve, but that valuations and investment are at the levels of “solving scarcity”
Re: Meta's Vision for Superintelligence
#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
>There's a bunch of people who want a large income (wealth) disparity Apart form you of course, so I'm sure you'd be ok if the government would tax your higher than average tech wage till your take home pay would match that of a train conductor's or bus driver's, like in Western Europe, and therefore fix the wage gap you hate so much. Would you like that solution? Caption this: It's only a problem when the people who…
Unless you are yourself a robber baron the likes of Zuck, you should look up this little concept called "class solidarity."
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