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GLM-4.5: Reasoning, Coding, and Agentic Abililties

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Re: GLM-4.5: Reasoning, Coding, and Agentic Abililties

#71

It is a Chinese model. We are all very shocked that it is censored! How could this possibly be? With that obligatory surprise and shock out of the way, I would like to inquire about the model's coding abilities. Has anybody actually used it for its intended purpose? How does it perform? Are there better models for this purpose at this price point?

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Re: GLM-4.5: Reasoning, Coding, and Agentic Abililties

#72

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Cool to know about, but I'm starting to get the impression that watching an LLM spit out hundreds of lines of rudimentary css is like the new buying a car to drive to the grocery store. When we look back on how we've trained ourselves to forget how to tolerate walking or design neighborhoods for livability, will we be happy we sacrificed the insects and air quality to do so? Not intended to be dismissive though, I do…

Also no fun, I didn't learn how to code to be the project manager for an artifically intelligent machine.

And what do you see yourself doing in 5 years?

Re: GLM-4.5: Reasoning, Coding, and Agentic Abililties

#73
so sad, i had a few questions about the CCP, China's constitution, and very quickly on a very factual non challenging question:...

Question: what proportion of the NPC's seats is held by the CCP?

GLM-4.5 Uh-oh! There was an issue with the response. Content Security Warning: The content may contain inappropriate content.

I could see some decent thinking in gray, but bam, all hidden in red. How many of the NPC's seats are held by the Chinese Communist Party is already too edgy.

This is just sadness with Chinese characteristics.

Re: GLM-4.5: Reasoning, Coding, and Agentic Abililties

#74
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Then you need to reprocess the previous conversation from scratch when switching from one provider to another, which sounds very expensive for no reason.

Conversations are always "reprocessed from scratch" on every message you send. LLMs are practically stateless and the conversation is the state, as in nothing is kept in memory between two turns.

Not exactly true ... KV and prompt caching is a thing

Re: GLM-4.5: Reasoning, Coding, and Agentic Abililties

#75

I typed "Hello" in their chat [1] and it replied back with "Hello! I'm Claude, an AI assistant created by Anthropic. How can I help you today?" Hmmm.... [1] https://chat.z.ai/

mine replied with 你好!我是GLM-4.5,由智谱AI开发的大语言模型。很高兴见到你!有什么我可以帮助你的问题或任务吗?

Mine too and funny enough when I switched to German it mirrored the switch including reasoning in German.

Re: GLM-4.5: Reasoning, Coding, and Agentic Abililties

#76
post #74
post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Conversations are always "reprocessed from scratch" on every message you send. LLMs are practically stateless and the conversation is the state, as in nothing is kept in memory between two turns.

Not exactly true ... KV and prompt caching is a thing

Assuming you include the same prompts in the new request that were cached in the previous ones.

Re: GLM-4.5: Reasoning, Coding, and Agentic Abililties

#77

so sad, i had a few questions about the CCP, China's constitution, and very quickly on a very factual non challenging question:... Question: what proportion of the NPC's seats is held by the CCP? GLM-4.5 Uh-oh! There was an issue with the response. Content Security Warning: The content may contain inappropriate content. I could see some decent thinking in gray, but bam, all hidden in red. How many of the NPC's seats…

> so sad, i had a few questions about the CCP, China's constitution, and very quickly on a very factual non challenging question:...

It is a Chinese model. It censors. Next you will tell us that Pope is religious. And water is wet.

Did you make any effort to test its coding abilities and compare it with other models in the same price range?

Re: GLM-4.5: Reasoning, Coding, and Agentic Abililties

#78
post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also no fun, I didn't learn how to code to be the project manager for an artifically intelligent machine.

And what do you see yourself doing in 5 years?

Still saying “we must treat the LLM as a junior”

Re: GLM-4.5: Reasoning, Coding, and Agentic Abililties

#79

so sad, i had a few questions about the CCP, China's constitution, and very quickly on a very factual non challenging question:... Question: what proportion of the NPC's seats is held by the CCP? GLM-4.5 Uh-oh! There was an issue with the response. Content Security Warning: The content may contain inappropriate content. I could see some decent thinking in gray, but bam, all hidden in red. How many of the NPC's seats…

That's bizarre, given the division of seats in the NPC is a key element of maintaining the fiction of China being a multi-party "democracy". You'd think they'd want it to give a sycophantic answer to that.

(For those unaware, China does in fact have multiple parties, but they all have to accept the leading role of the CCP, and are largely ways of handing out favours, especially to people who would not meet the membership criteria of the CCP)

Re: GLM-4.5: Reasoning, Coding, and Agentic Abililties

#80
The commentary around every Chinese model is incredibly disappointing. Asking about Tiananmen Square isn't some clever insight.

Look at the political leanings that government-backed AIs in the United States will soon be required to reflect: those of the current administration.

I was hoping to hear from people reporting on their utility or coding capabilities instead.

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